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Comoy's pipes were given shape numbers in the 1909 catalogue and also names for each shape, but it would seem that these numbers were NOT stamped on the pipes until sometime in the 1920's. The earliest known is from 1925. The shape numbers are all 3 digits until after the Cadogan acquisition of Comoy's in 1979, when some shapes were introduced with 4 digit numbers. However, they may have been introduced earlier in 1976, 1977 or 1978. On pre Cadogan pipes additional letters can be found after the three numbers: | Comoy's pipes were given shape numbers in the 1909 catalogue and also names for each shape, but it would seem that these numbers were NOT stamped on the pipes until sometime in the 1920's. The earliest known is from 1925. The shape numbers are all 3 digits until after the Cadogan acquisition of Comoy's in 1979, when some shapes were introduced with 4 digit numbers. However, they may have been introduced earlier in 1976, 1977 or 1978. On pre Cadogan pipes additional letters can be found after the three numbers: | ||
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*M on Meerschaum lined pipes. | *M on Meerschaum lined pipes. | ||
*P on Panel shaped bowls. ( This may not always be the case as I have now seen a photograph of a non panel Shape 309 with a P) | *P on Panel shaped bowls. ( This may not always be the case as I have now seen a photograph of a non panel Shape 309 with a P) | ||
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style='font-size:9.0pt'>flatbottm sitter</span></p> | style='font-size:9.0pt'>flatbottm sitter</span></p> | ||
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style='font-size:9.0pt'>cutty ( | style='font-size:9.0pt'>originally listed here as a cutty, but more of Livepool with pointed front and back bowl (like a double ended ship)(see note at bottom)</span></p> | ||
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'''Note:''' Bill Wagner, a collector of pre-Cadogan, shop-branded Comoys has an example of Comoy shape 388 who describes it as identical to shape 66 (Liverpool) in a side-by-side comparison, except the bowl is a bi-pointed oblong in cross-section. Pre-WW II country of origin marking, and stamped "Charlestowne" (for, or by the pipe shop of that name in South Carolina). | '''Note:''' Bill Wagner, a collector of pre-Cadogan, shop-branded Comoys has an example of Comoy shape 388 who describes it as identical to shape 66 (Liverpool) in a side-by-side comparison, except the bowl is a bi-pointed oblong in cross-section. Pre-WW II country of origin marking, and stamped "Charlestowne" (for, or by the pipe shop of that name in South Carolina). | ||
See [[Everyman Shape 388]] Example. | |||
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Revision as of 13:12, 7 September 2021
Comoy's pipes were given shape numbers in the 1909 catalogue and also names for each shape, but it would seem that these numbers were NOT stamped on the pipes until sometime in the 1920's. The earliest known is from 1925. The shape numbers are all 3 digits until after the Cadogan acquisition of Comoy's in 1979, when some shapes were introduced with 4 digit numbers. However, they may have been introduced earlier in 1976, 1977 or 1978. On pre Cadogan pipes additional letters can be found after the three numbers:
- M on Meerschaum lined pipes.
- P on Panel shaped bowls. ( This may not always be the case as I have now seen a photograph of a non panel Shape 309 with a P)
- C on some shapes with curved bits. This does not seem to be universal for all curved bits and it would appear to be mainly on Princes and Bulldogs.
- F believed to indicate a "Fishtail" bit. Verified on an early 1930's Virgin Briar with the shape number 206F and a fishtail bit exactly like the Dunhill F/T, that was not introduced until 1950.
(S)=saddle bit - A/M=army monunt - sq=squat - sq.shank=square shank
S=small - M=medium - L=large - XL=extraordinare shape - LW=lightweight shape
# |
type |
bent |
etc. |
3 |
bulldog |
str. |
M |
4 |
bulldog(S) |
str. |
L |
5 |
bulldog(S) |
str. |
L |
5XL |
bulldog(S) |
str. |
XL |
6 |
billiard(S) |
str. |
M |
13 |
billiard |
1/2 |
S |
17 |
kruger(S) |
1/2 |
M |
19 |
A/M billiard |
str. |
L |
20 |
A/M billiard |
str. |
L |
23 |
A/M billiard |
str. |
canted bowl L |
24 |
A/M billiard |
str. |
S |
25 |
A/M billiard |
str. |
M |
26 |
A/M billiard |
1/2 |
M |
27 |
billiard(S) |
str. |
L |
28 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
30 |
liverpool |
str. |
- |
35 |
dublin |
str. |
- |
36 |
dublin |
str. |
- |
39 |
A/M dublin |
str. |
M |
42 |
billiard |
1/2 |
M |
43 |
billiard |
1/2 |
L |
47 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
52 |
dublin |
1/4 |
flatbottm sitter |
61 |
cavalier |
full bent. |
vulcunite foot |
64 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
66 |
liverpool |
str. |
L |
70 |
A/M billiard |
1/2 |
L |
74 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
78 |
A/M globe |
str. |
L |
80 |
bulldog |
str. |
M |
87 |
woodstock |
1/8 |
oval stem |
93 |
belgian |
str. |
L |
97 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
98 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
100 |
billiard |
1/2 |
XL |
102 |
A/M pot |
str. |
L |
103 |
A/M pot |
str. |
S |
104 |
A/M pot |
str. |
M |
106 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
107 |
pot |
str. |
S |
110 |
billiard |
str. |
L |
111 |
liverpool |
str. |
- |
112 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
117 |
pot |
str. |
L |
122 |
pot |
str. |
M |
123 |
pot |
str. |
M |
124 |
pot(S) |
str. |
XL |
125 |
pot |
str. |
XL |
126 |
pot |
str. |
L |
127 |
billiard |
str. |
XL |
129 |
globe |
str. |
XL |
130 |
globe(S) |
str. |
XL |
131 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
133 |
liverpool |
str. |
- |
156 |
lovat |
str. |
S |
157 |
billard |
str. |
flat bottom |
159 |
globe |
str. |
S |
182 |
billard(S) |
str. |
L |
184 |
globe |
1/2 |
M |
185 |
billiard |
str. |
L |
186 |
billiard |
str. |
L |
187 |
tall billiard |
str. |
XL |
188 |
stack |
str. |
XL |
189 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
190 |
liverpool |
str. |
- |
202 |
danish |
1/8 |
oval stem |
203 |
cutty |
str. |
oval stem |
206 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
210 |
lovat |
str. |
S |
211 |
author |
1/4 |
nearly identical to 256 |
212 |
lovat |
str. |
L |
213 |
clay tavern |
str. |
with a spur |
214 |
billiard |
1/2 |
M |
215 |
billiard(S) |
1/2 |
M |
216 |
bulldog |
str. |
XL |
218 |
bulldog(s) |
str. |
M |
222 |
cutty |
str. |
M |
225 |
calabash |
1/4 |
M |
228c |
prince |
1/8 |
- |
229 |
bulldog |
1/4 |
- |
234 |
bulldog |
str. |
M |
235 |
kruger |
str. |
XL |
238 |
bulldog(S) |
str. |
M |
245 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
250 |
dublin |
str. |
oval stem |
252 |
pot(S) |
str. |
S |
256 |
author |
1/4 |
M |
270 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
274 |
A/M globe |
str. |
M |
282 |
bulldog |
1/4 |
M |
284 |
rhodesian |
1/4 |
M |
291 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
292 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
296 |
canadian |
str. |
oval stem L |
298 |
canadian(S) |
str. |
L |
298 |
A/M prince |
1/8 |
S |
299 |
canadian |
str. |
oval stem |
301 |
dublin |
str. |
- |
303 |
A/M prince |
1/8 |
M |
309 |
liverpool |
str. |
XL |
311 |
canadian |
str. |
L |
331 |
sq.bulldog |
str. |
L |
331c |
sq.bulldog |
1/8 |
L |
332 |
billiard |
str. |
L |
334 |
globe |
str. |
L |
335 |
globe |
str. |
S |
336c |
prince |
1/8 |
- |
337c |
prince |
1/8 |
- |
338 |
prince |
str |
pear bowl |
339 |
prince |
str |
pear bowl |
339p |
prince |
str |
pear bowl, paneled |
340 |
billiard |
str. |
M |
341 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
342 |
billiard |
str. |
XL (dunhill LB) |
343 |
billiard(S) |
str. |
XL |
345 |
stack |
str. |
L |
346 |
cutty |
str. |
S |
359 |
globe |
str. |
M |
361 |
pot |
str. |
S |
362 |
liverpool |
str. |
- |
363 |
foursquare |
str. |
sq.shank |
364 |
bullcap |
str |
- |
364p |
bullcap |
str |
paneled |
368 |
globe |
str. |
L |
386 |
bulldog |
str. |
paneled bowl |
388 |
originally listed here as a cutty, but more of Livepool with pointed front and back bowl (like a double ended ship)(see note at bottom) |
str. |
M |
398 |
sq.bulldog(S) |
str. |
L |
402 |
globe |
str. |
S |
405 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
409 |
bulldog(S) |
1/4 |
- |
430 |
bulldog |
str. |
triangular shank |
431 |
billiard |
str. |
S |
433 |
dublin |
1/8 |
- |
434 |
liverpool |
str. |
- |
435 |
lovat |
str. |
cyrindrical bowl |
437 |
billiard(S) |
str. |
M |
440 |
rhodesian |
str. |
M |
441 |
hexagonol panel |
str. |
sq.shank |
442 |
dublin |
1/4 |
sq.shank |
446 |
horn |
str. |
M flat bottom |
463 |
bullcap |
str. |
M |
480 |
dublin(S) |
str. |
- |
481 |
billard(S) |
str. |
flat bottom |
483 |
globe(s) |
str. |
L |
484 |
billiard(S) |
str. |
L |
495 |
pot(S) |
str. |
L |
496 |
pot(S) |
str. |
M |
497 |
pot(S) |
str. |
sq.shank |
499 |
rhodesian |
1/4 |
XL |
501 |
bulldog |
1/8 |
LW |
503 |
prince |
1/8 |
pear bowl LW |
504 |
prince |
1/8 |
LW |
505 |
billiard |
1/16 |
LW |
506 |
billiard |
1/8 |
LW paneled |
509 |
billiard |
1/8 |
LW |
511 |
prince |
1/8 |
LW paneled |
512 |
dublin |
1/8 |
LW |
513 |
billiard |
1/8 |
LW |
523 |
billiard |
1/2 |
LW |
532 |
globe(S) |
str. |
sq.shank |
534 |
foursquare(S) |
str. |
sq.shank |
551 |
globe(S) |
str. |
S |
552c |
prince(S) |
str |
- |
553 |
pot |
str. |
S |
554 |
billiard(S) |
str. |
M |
556 |
prince(S) |
str |
- |
588 |
poker |
1/8 |
L |
589 |
dublin(S) |
1/4 |
modern |
594 |
pear(S) |
1/4 |
modern |
596 |
billiard(S) |
1/8 |
modern flat bottom |
600 |
skater |
1/4 |
modern |
601 |
poker |
1/4 |
modern |
601 |
billiard |
1/8 |
LW |
603 |
poker |
3/4 |
modern |
604 |
dublin(S) |
1/4 |
modern |
607 |
billiard(S) |
1/4 |
modern |
608 |
billiard |
str. |
LW |
616 |
prince |
1/8 |
LW |
618 |
billiard(S) |
str. |
LW |
620 |
pot(S) |
str. |
LW |
621 |
globe(S) |
str. |
LW |
623 |
dublin(S) |
1/4 |
modern paneled |
624 |
poker(S) |
1/4 |
modern |
624 |
pot |
str. |
LW paneled |
625 |
banker(S) |
1/4 |
modern |
681 |
sq.bulldog(S) |
str. |
M |
683 |
sq.bulldog(S) |
str. |
M |
803 |
foursquare |
str. |
XXL |
804 |
billiard |
1/2 |
XXL |
807 |
canadian |
str. |
XXL |
Note: Bill Wagner, a collector of pre-Cadogan, shop-branded Comoys has an example of Comoy shape 388 who describes it as identical to shape 66 (Liverpool) in a side-by-side comparison, except the bowl is a bi-pointed oblong in cross-section. Pre-WW II country of origin marking, and stamped "Charlestowne" (for, or by the pipe shop of that name in South Carolina). See Everyman Shape 388 Example.