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Currently '''35 shapes''' classified with 2-digit numbers.
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Occasionally a piece of briar is just asking to be carved into a shape which is not in the standard list. The general term for such pipe shapes is “Quaint”. The current system with 4 digits visible has now been in place for over 30 years, and has proven to work very well for Dunhill, the trade, and for consumers.
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Currently '''25 shapes''' classified with 2-digit numbers.
Occasionally a piece of briar is just asking to be carved into a shape which is not in the standard list. The general term for such pipe shapes is “Quaint”. The current system with 4 digits visible has now been in place for over 30 years, and has proven to work very well for Dunhill, the trade, and for consumers.
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[[File:Shapechart.jpg|center|Pipe Chart Dunhill]]
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|<center>1: Group</center>
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|<center>1: Standard to shape (Taper)</center>
|<center>1: Standard to shape* or taper</center>
|<center>01: Apple</center>
|<center>01: Apple</center>
|<center>02: Bent</center>
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|<center>2: Standard to shape (Saddle)</center>
|<center>2: Saddle</center>
|<center>04: Bulldog</center>
|<center>04: Bulldog</center>
|<center>05: Dublin</center>
|<center>05: Dublin</center>
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<center>'''*Note:''' for example, we have a Lovat 4111 - the standard lovat mouthpiece is saddle. In this case, the number is 1 and not 2.</center>
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|('''4:''' Group''';''' '''1:'''tapered stem''';''' '''17:''' Shape: Straight Rhodesian* - Dunhill criteria.
|('''4:''' Group''';''' '''1:'''tapered stem''';''' '''17:''' Shape: Straight Rhodesian* - Dunhill criteria.
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[[file:Rhodesianyang.jpg|center|350px|Straight Rhodesian - 1993]]
File:Rhodesianyang.jpg| Cumberland - 1993
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File:Stems.jpg|Taper and Saddle examples
File:20190816 211612 601.jpg| Dunhills T w/ 1 & 2 Stems
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Although scarcity of fine briar has always necessitated the pricing of Dunhill according to the amount of root employed in their manufacture, it is important to remember that, irrespective of size and price, they are of one quality only – the finest. The bowls are sorted into 6 groups.
Although the scarcity of fine briar has always necessitated the pricing of Dunhill according to the amount of root employed in their manufacture, it is important to remember that, irrespective of size and price, they are of one quality only – the finest. The bowls are sorted into 6 groups.


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<center>[[File:Aspas-copy.png|40px]]'''Today we have up to 6 standard group sizes (depending on the shape) and sometimes, we occasionally also offer a XXL size (for the Billiard and Dublin shapes) and Giant sizes (for the Bent and Billiard shapes), but both the XXL and Giant sizes are manufactured in extremely limited quantities and not in regular intervals and are, therefore, extremely rare. For Collector (Free-hand) and Straight Grain & Amber Flame pipes, we generally distinguish between standard and XL sizes.'''[[File:Aspas.png|40px]] Hener, K. S., Product Line Director - The White Spot Smoker's Accessory Division and Walthamstow site (January 2020).</center>
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|'''Group 1''' / Small  
|'''Group 1''' / Small  
|'''Group 2''' / Medium
|'''Group 2''' / Small to Medium
|'''Group 3''' / Medium
|'''Group 3''' / Medium
|'''Group 4''' / Medium to Large
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|'''Group 4''' / Medium to Large
|'''Group 5''' / Large
|'''Group 5''' / Large
|'''Group 6''' / Extra large
|'''Group 6''' / Large to Extra
|'''XL''' / Extra large
|'''XXL or Giant'''
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[[File:Pipes Size.jpg|center|700px|Groups]]
 
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<blockquote>"The sizing for a given group size will also depend on the shape of a pipe, i.e. the dimensions for a Billiard in group 4 will obviously be different to the dimensions of a Pot or Chimney in the same group size. Also, even within the group size of a particular shape (say a Billiard in group 4) there will always be variations for a multitude of reasons. To name a few:
- the pipes are largely hand-made, so naturally, there will always be slight differences in size;<br>
- we might use different variations of a particular shape (that are all categorised as a Billiard Group 4), i.e. a standard Billiard shape or a more “Barrel” type Billiard shape or a Billiard with a bevel rim or a Billiard with an oval stem… all of which would cause those pipes to differ from each other in terms of their dimensions;<br>
- we work and re-work our pipes tirelessly to eliminate any flaws as much as possible, which will also have certain effects to the dimensions of a pipe;<br>
- sandblasted pipes will be slightly smaller compared to the same pipe in a smooth finish due to the sandblasting process, which - albeit slightly - still reduces the outer dimensions (and the weight) of a pipe.<br>
Above list is not exhaustive, but gives a good idea, why there are no exact measurements for the dimensions of our pipes." Hener, K. S., Product Line Director - The White Spot Smoker's Accessory Division and Walthamstow site (January, 2020).</blockquote>
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The encircled group number indicates the size of the bowl (1, for example, is the smaller bowl). It is usually followed by a letter corresponding to the pipe finish. This number/letter code has been introduced about 1952 and was discontinued about 1976 replaced by a 4 or 5 digits code.
The encircled group number indicates the size of the bowl (1, for example, is the smaller bowl). It is usually followed by a letter corresponding to the pipe finish. This number/letter code has been introduced about 1950 and was discontinued about 1976 replaced by a 4 or 5 digits code. They were reintroduced in March 2012, but only for commemorative versions.  
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|+Nomenclature from 52 up to 76/78 (reintroduced in March 2012).
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|'''CH''' - Skater
|'''CH''' - Skater
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|'''CK''' - Bent Rhodesian
|'''CK''' - Bent Rhodesian
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|'''SS''' - “Quaint Shape” Billiard hexagonal shank & tapered bit 1928
|'''SS''' - “Quaint Shape” Billiard hexagonal shank & tapered bit 1928
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|'''EC''' - “Quaint Shape” Canadian, oval shank, short tapered bit 1928
|'''EC''' - “Quaint Shape” Canadian, oval shank, short tapered bit 1928
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|'''FR''' - “Quaint Shape” Octagonal panel billiard, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
|'''FR''' - “Quaint Shape” Octagonal panel billiard, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
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|'''OE''' - “Quaint Shape” Octagonal panel billiard, square shank, angled tapered bit 1928
|'''OE''' - “Quaint Shape” Octagonal panel billiard, square shank, angled tapered bit 1928
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|'''O''' - Squat Bulldog
|'''O''' - Squat Bulldog
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|'''OR''' - Straight Rhodesian
|'''OR''' - Straight Rhodesian
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|'''OX''' - Saddle Bulldog
|'''OX''' - Saddle Bulldog
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|'''OXS''' - Bulldog
|'''OXS''' - Bulldog
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|'''P''' - 1/2 Bent Bulldog
|'''P''' - 1/2 Bent Bulldog
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|'''PO''' - 1/4 Bent Bulldog
|'''PO''' - 1/4 Bent Bulldog
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|'''EK''' - “Quaint Shape” Hexagonal panel billiard, square shank, angled tapered bit “Stand-up” 1928
|'''EK''' - “Quaint Shape” Hexagonal panel billiard, square shank, angled tapered bit “Stand-up” 1928
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|'''VT''' - “Quaint Shape” tirangular panel billiard, tirangular shank and bit “Stand-up” 1928
|'''VT''' - “Quaint Shape” tirangular panel billiard, tirangular shank and bit “Stand-up” 1928
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|'''SA''' - “Quaint Shape” octogonal tall panel billiard, hexagonal shank, angled bit “Stand-up” 1928
|'''SA''' - “Quaint Shape” octogonal tall panel billiard, hexagonal shank, angled bit “Stand-up” 1928
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|'''GD''' - “Quaint Shape” Circular tall billiard, ringed low at bowl base, round shank and bit 1928
|'''GD''' - “Quaint Shape” Circular tall billiard, ringed low at bowl base, round shank and bit 1928
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|'''PK''' - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard, diamond shank and bit 1928
|'''PK''' - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard, diamond shank and bit 1928
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|'''PL''' - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard,triangular shank and bit 1928
|'''PL''' - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard,triangular shank and bit 1928
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|'''EL''' - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard, triangular shank and bit 1928
|'''EL''' - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard, triangular shank and bit 1928
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|'''ES''' - Canadian
|'''ES''' - Canadian
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|'''HB''' -  Bent
|'''HB''' -  Bent
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|'''HU''' -  Hungarian
|'''HU''' -  Hungarian
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|'''FJ''' - “Quaint Shape” Cutty, canted round bowl, extended tapered bit 1928
|'''FJ''' - “Quaint Shape” Cutty, canted round bowl, extended tapered bit 1928
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|'''KS''' - “Quaint Shape” Apple, flattened bowl support peg “Stand-up” 1928
|'''KS''' - “Quaint Shape” Apple, flattened bowl support peg “Stand-up” 1928
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|'''K''' - “Quaint Shape” Round Apple, converging rim, round shank, tapered bit 1928
|'''K''' - “Quaint Shape” Round Apple, converging rim, round shank, tapered bit 1928
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|'''KB''' - Urn (Quaint shape)
|'''KB''' - Urn (Quaint shape)
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|'''FE''' - “Quaint Shape” Apple, large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
|'''FE''' - “Quaint Shape” Apple, large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
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|'''FET''' - “Quaint Shape” Apple, large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
|'''FET''' - “Quaint Shape” Apple, large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
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|'''E''' - “Quaint Shape” Army mount (silver) large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
|'''E''' - “Quaint Shape” Army mount (silver) large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
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|'''ET''' - “Quaint Shape” Army mount (silver) large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
|'''ET''' - “Quaint Shape” Army mount (silver) large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
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|'''EK''' - Paneled billiard 1950, 1969
|'''EK''' - Paneled billiard 1950, 1969
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|'''LV''' - Straight Brandy
|'''LV''' - Straight Brandy
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|'''LB''' - Long Billiard
|'''LB''' - Long Billiard
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|'''LBS''' - Billiard (Longer)
|'''LBS''' - Billiard (Longer)
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|'''LC''' - Large Curve
|'''LC''' - Large Curve
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|'''LF''' - Dublin
|'''LF''' - Dublin
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|'''LOX''' - Bulldog
|'''LOX''' - Bulldog
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|'''U''' - Shield Bulldog
|'''U''' - Shield Bulldog
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|'''US''' - Beehive - Quaint shape
|'''US''' - Beehive - Quaint shape
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|'''UT''' - Quaint shape
|'''UT''' - Quaint shape
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|'''R''' - Pot  
|'''R''' - Pot  
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|'''SU''' - Barrel  
|'''SU''' - Barrel  
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|'''TLY''' - Bent
|'''TLY''' - Bent Billiard (large) - Saddle Stem.
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|'''VS''' - Brandy
|'''VS''' - Brandy
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|'''W''' - Bamboo
|'''W''' - Bamboo
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A 3-digit system (“Interim”) was developed that showed a logical approach to identify pipes in terms of size, mouthpiece, and shape, with the 1st digit being the size, the 2nd digit the mouthpiece, and the 3rd digit the shape, i.e. the old “85” became a “321” which was a group 3 Apple with taper mouthpiece. This was soon to be replaced by a more detailed, formal 4- and 5-digit system around 1978.
A 3-digit system (“Interim”) was developed that showed a logical approach to identify pipes in terms of size, mouthpiece, and shape, with the 1st digit being the size, the 2nd digit the mouthpiece, and the 3rd digit the shape, i.e. the old “85” became a “321” which was a group 3 Apple with taper mouthpiece. This was soon to be replaced by a more detailed, formal 4- and 5-digit system around 1978.


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[[file:Tanshellyang.jpg|thumb||right|Tanshell - 1952]]
[[file:Tanshellyang.jpg|thumb||right|Tanshell - 1952]]
The first image on the right, (with the shape number 577) falls into this system, so 577 has no special meaning apart from describing / being the model for that particular pipe shape (in this case a specific group 2 Billiard with saddle mouthpiece). Around 1973, with the introduction of computers, new categories were introduced that indicated size, mouthpiece, and shape. As for the “T”, in 1952 a full-size “T” was added after the circled group size stamp to further describe the Tanshell finish (in 1953 the “T” was reduced to about half the size). So this pipe dates from 1952.
The first image on the right, (with the shape number 577) falls into this system, so 577 has no special meaning apart from describing/being the model for that particular pipe shape (in this case a specific group 2 Billiard with saddle mouthpiece). Around 1973, with the introduction of computers, new categories were introduced that indicated size, mouthpiece, and shape. As for the “T”, in 1952 a full-size “T” was added after the circled group size stamp to further describe the Tanshell finish (in 1953 the “T” was reduced to about half the size). So this pipe dates from 1952.
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The 5th digit indicated the style of bowl within the group of a similar classification, each identified by a last digit, which could be any number between 1-9.
The 5th digit indicated the style of the bowl within the group of a similar classification, each identified by the last digit, which could be any number between 1-9.


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While e.g. within the Gp.4 Billiard there were 5 different styles of bowls (5th digit being either 1,2,3,4, or 9), for a Gp.1 Billiard there were only 3 styles used (5th digit being 1, 2, or 9).
While e.g. within the Gp.4 Billiard there were 5 different styles of bowls (5th digit being either 1,2,3,4, or 9), for a Gp.1 Billiard there were only 3 styles used (5th digit being 1, 2, or 9).


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Although the 5-digit code was stamped on the pipe and thus was visible to the consumer, it was mostly used for internal production planning purposes and to a lesser extent for retail staff. The system proved to be quite complex.
Although the 5-digit code was stamped on the pipe and thus was visible to the consumer, it was mostly used for internal production planning purposes and to a lesser extent for retail staff. The system proved to be quite complex.


The elimination of the 5th digit on the pipes (probably in the early 80’s) resulted in better management of the pipe stock as there were less skus and it also facilitated the work for the sales staff in the retail shops as the complexity and number of skus was considerably reduced.
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The elimination of the 5th digit on the pipes (in 1984) resulted in better management of the pipe stock as there were less skus and it also facilitated the work for the sales staff in the retail shops as the complexity and number of skus was considerably reduced.
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*|*Numbers 7 & 8 are not used  nowadays as The White Spot now make all mouthpieces as fishtail as standard practise.  
*|*Numbers 7 & 8 are not used  nowadays as The White Spot now make all mouthpieces as fishtail as standard practise.  
*| When 5 digits occur, the meaning of the 4 first remain the same.
*| When 5 digits occur, the meaning of the 4 first remain the same.
*| 5 digit shape numbers was added in 1976 and ended in 1984.
*| Some sources such as the Pipephil portal, indicate this change in markings occurred in mid-1976, others indicate it was 1974.
*| Some sources such as the Pipephil portal, indicate this change in markings occurred in mid-1976, others indicate it was 1974.
*| Before 2007 there were only two classifications for mouthpieces (1= tapered, 2= saddle). After this period, 9 patterns are used (4303, 3903, 5403,...). Today only 7.
*| Before 2007 there were only two classifications for mouthpieces (1= tapered, 2= saddle). After this period, 9 patterns are used (4303, 3903, 5403,...). Today only 7.
*| Usually pipes with fishtail bit receive a stamp (FT) next to the shape number.
*| Usually pipes with fishtail bit receive a stamp (FT) next to the shape number.
*| In the encircled group number, letter corresponding to the pipe finish: “S” for Shell; “A” for Bruyere; “T” for Tanshell and “R/B” for Red Bark. *9mm its about filter.
*| In the encircled group number, letter corresponding to the pipe finish: “S” for Shell; “A” for Bruyere; “T” for Tanshell and “R/B” for Red Bark. *9mm its about filter.
*| 120, 196, P, R are old shape names from the 1930's, which the Dunhill reintroduced for the White Spot Collection only.
*| 120, 196, P, R are old shape names from the '20s and '30s, which the Dunhill reintroduced for the White Spot Collection only.
*| "F/T" (fishtail) mouthpiece was designed only in the 1930's.
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Special thanks to Mr. Hener (The White Spot Division) for his valuable contributions.<br>
Special thanks to Mr. Hener (The White Spot Division) for his valuable contributions.<br>
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