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Revision as of 16:11, 11 April 2021

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A l'heure actuelle il y a 35 formes courantes, avec une classification par des numéros à deux chiffres. Parfois un bout de bruyère doit être taillé selon une forme qui n'appartient pas à la liste standard. Une telle pipe est appelée "Quaint"; Le système actuel à 4 chiffres apparent est maintenant en place depuis plus de 30 ans et a montré son efficacité à la fois pour Dunhill, le marché et les clients.


Tableau des formes The White Spot
Chiffre 1: Taille
Chiffre 2: Tuyau
Chiffre 3 + 4: Forme
Finition
1: Group
1: Standard to shape* or taper (aux standards de la forme* ou fuselé).
01: Apple
02: Courbe
03: Billiard
Amber Root
2: Group
2: Saddle (sifflet)
04: Bulldog
05: Dublin
06: Pot
Bruyere
3: Group
3: Longer Taper (fuselé long)
07: Prince
08: Bent Rhodesian
09: Canadian
Cumberland
4: Group
4: 1/4 Bent Taper (fuselé ¼ de courbe)
10: Liverpool
11: Lovat
12: Chimney
County
5: Group
5: 1/4 Bent Saddle (sifflet ¼ de courbe)
13: Bent Apple
14: Bent Dublin
15: Bent Pot
Dress / (Black Briar)
6: Group
6: Churchwarden (très long)
16: Bent Chimney
17: Straight Rhodesian
20: Cherrywood
Chestnut
XXL: Larger than Gr 6
*7: Non-Fishtail Taper (fuselé sans fishtail)
21: Zulu
22: Poker
24: Square Panel
Root Briar
XL: Extra large on Freehand pipes
*8: Non-Fishtail Saddle (sifflet sans fishtail)
25: Evening Dress
26: Hungarian
27: Pear
Rubybark
9: Nosewarmer (very short) (Brûle-gueule (très court))
28: Diplomat
30: Bent Evening Dress
31: Bent Pear
Shell Briar
32: Barrel Bent
33: Bent Brandy
34: Brandy
Tanshell
35: Horn
36: Vest Pocket
44: Duke
45: Don
HT: Hand-turn (freehand)
*Note: par exemple, nous avons une Lovat 4111 - le standard pour la forme Lovat est un tuyau saddle (sifflet) Dans ce cas précis, le second chiffre doit être 1 et non 2.


Example: 4117 (4: groupe; 1: tuyau fuselé; 17: forme rhodésienne droite* - critères Dunhil.
Les tailles


En dépit de la rareté de la belle bruyère, qui a toujours nécessité d'ajuster le prix des Dunhill en fonction du coût de la bruyère employée dans l'usine, il est important de se souvenir qu'indépendamment de la taille et du prix, il n'y a qu'une seule qualité – la meilleure. Les têtes sont triées en 6 groupes.

Aspas-copy.pngAujourd'hui nous avons jusqu'à 6 groupes de taille standards (ça dépend de la forme) et parfois, nous proposons à l'occcasion des tailles XXL (pour les formes Billiard et Dublin) et des tailles Giant (Géantes) ( pour les formes Billiard et les courbes) mais autant les XXL que les Giant sont fabriquées en quantités extrêmement réduites et de façon discontinues et sont de ce fait extrêmement rares. Quant aux Collector (Free-Hand), aux Straight Grain et aux Amber Flames, on distingue généralement des tailles standard et des XL.Aspas.png Hener, K. S., Product Line Director - The White Spot Smoker's Accessory Division and Walthamstow site (January 2020).


Groupes
Groupe 1 / Petit Groupe 2 / Petit à Moyen Groupe 3 / Moyen Groupe 4 / Moyen à Grand
Groupe 5 / Grand Groupe 6 / Grand à Super Grand XL / Super Grand XXL or Giant


"The sizing for a given group size will also depend on the shape of a pipe, i.e. the dimensions for a Billiard in group 4 will obviously be different to the dimensions of a Pot or Chimney in the same group size. Also, even within the group size of a particular shape (say a Billiard in group 4) there will always be variations for a multitude of reasons. To name a few:

- the pipes are largely hand-made, so naturally, there will always be slight differences in size;
- we might use different variations of a particular shape (that are all categorised as a Billiard Group 4), i.e. a standard Billiard shape or a more “Barrel” type Billiard shape or a Billiard with a bevel rim or a Billiard with an oval stem… all of which would cause those pipes to differ from each other in terms of their dimensions;
- we work and re-work our pipes tirelessly to eliminate any flaws as much as possible, which will also have certain effects to the dimensions of a pipe;
- sandblasted pipes will be slightly smaller compared to the same pipe in a smooth finish due to the sandblasting process, which - albeit slightly - still reduces the outer dimensions (and the weight) of a pipe.

Above list is not exhaustive, but gives a good idea, why there are no exact measurements for the dimensions of our pipes." Hener, K. S., Product Line Director - The White Spot Smoker's Accessory Division and Walthamstow site (January, 2020).


The encircled group number indicates the size of the bowl (1, for example, is the smaller bowl). It is usually followed by a letter corresponding to the pipe finish. This number/letter code has been introduced about 1950 and was discontinued about 1976 replaced by a 4 or 5 digits code. They were reintroduced in March 2012, but only for commemorative versions.

Nomenclature from 52 up to 76/78 (reintroduced in March 2012).
Gr1S.jpg Gr2A.jpg Gr3T.jpg Gr4RB.jpg Gr5S.jpg Gr6-9mm.jpg


Early Days - 2 digits \ Letters


The original skus/model numbers from the 1920’s until the early 1970’s stood for very specific shapes and bowls. For example, the codes 31, 34, 59, 111, 113, 117, 196, LB, LBS... were all different types of Billiard shaped pipes and there were about 50(!), such codes for the Billiard shape alone.

Letter Shapes:
CH - Skater CK - Bent Rhodesian SS - “Quaint Shape” Billiard hexagonal shank & tapered bit 1928
EC - “Quaint Shape” Canadian, oval shank, short tapered bit 1928 FR - “Quaint Shape” Octagonal panel billiard, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928 OE - “Quaint Shape” Octagonal panel billiard, square shank, angled tapered bit 1928
O - Squat Bulldog OR - Straight Rhodesian OX - Saddle Bulldog
OXS - Bulldog P - 1/2 Bent Bulldog PO - 1/4 Bent Bulldog
EK - “Quaint Shape” Hexagonal panel billiard, square shank, angled tapered bit “Stand-up” 1928 VT - “Quaint Shape” tirangular panel billiard, tirangular shank and bit “Stand-up” 1928 SA - “Quaint Shape” octogonal tall panel billiard, hexagonal shank, angled bit “Stand-up” 1928
GD - “Quaint Shape” Circular tall billiard, ringed low at bowl base, round shank and bit 1928 PK - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard, diamond shank and bit 1928 PL - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard,triangular shank and bit 1928
EL - “Quaint Shape” Four sided panel billiard, triangular shank and bit 1928 ES - Canadian HB - Bent
HU - Hungarian FJ - “Quaint Shape” Cutty, canted round bowl, extended tapered bit 1928 KS - “Quaint Shape” Apple, flattened bowl support peg “Stand-up” 1928
K - “Quaint Shape” Round Apple, converging rim, round shank, tapered bit 1928 KB - Urn (Quaint shape) FE - “Quaint Shape” Apple, large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
FET - “Quaint Shape” Apple, large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928 E - “Quaint Shape” Army mount (silver) large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928 ET - “Quaint Shape” Army mount (silver) large squat bowl, round shank, extended tapered bit 1928
EK - Paneled billiard 1950, 1969 LV - Straight Brandy LB - Long Billiard
LBS - Billiard (Longer) LC - Large Curve LF - Dublin
LOX - Bulldog U - Shield Bulldog US - Beehive - Quaint shape
UT - Quaint shape R - Pot SU - Barrel
TLY - Bent Billiard (large) - Saddle Stem. VS - Brandy W - Bamboo


  • Eric Boehm offers to us a list of the principals shapes: 2-digits and ODA list by Loring: Dunhill Shapes List


3-digit system


A 3-digit system (“Interim”) was developed that showed a logical approach to identify pipes in terms of size, mouthpiece, and shape, with the 1st digit being the size, the 2nd digit the mouthpiece, and the 3rd digit the shape, i.e. the old “85” became a “321” which was a group 3 Apple with taper mouthpiece. This was soon to be replaced by a more detailed, formal 4- and 5-digit system around 1978.

Tanshell - 1952

The first image on the right, (with the shape number 577) falls into this system, so 577 has no special meaning apart from describing/being the model for that particular pipe shape (in this case a specific group 2 Billiard with saddle mouthpiece). Around 1973, with the introduction of computers, new categories were introduced that indicated size, mouthpiece, and shape. As for the “T”, in 1952 a full-size “T” was added after the circled group size stamp to further describe the Tanshell finish (in 1953 the “T” was reduced to about half the size). So this pipe dates from 1952.


5-digit system


The 5th digit indicated the style of the bowl within the group of a similar classification, each identified by the last digit, which could be any number between 1-9.

While e.g. within the Gp.4 Billiard there were 5 different styles of bowls (5th digit being either 1,2,3,4, or 9), for a Gp.1 Billiard there were only 3 styles used (5th digit being 1, 2, or 9).

Although the 5-digit code was stamped on the pipe and thus was visible to the consumer, it was mostly used for internal production planning purposes and to a lesser extent for retail staff. The system proved to be quite complex.

The elimination of the 5th digit on the pipes (in 1984) resulted in better management of the pipe stock as there were less skus and it also facilitated the work for the sales staff in the retail shops as the complexity and number of skus was considerably reduced.

Notes


Tapered Straight, Slightly bent (semi-straight, half bent). All with the same classification, i.e 1. (before 2000)
  • |*Numbers 7 & 8 are not used nowadays as The White Spot now make all mouthpieces as fishtail as standard practise.
  • | When 5 digits occur, the meaning of the 4 first remain the same.
  • | 5 digit shape numbers was added in 1976 and ended in 1984.
  • | Some sources such as the Pipephil portal, indicate this change in markings occurred in mid-1976, others indicate it was 1974.
  • | Before 2007 there were only two classifications for mouthpieces (1= tapered, 2= saddle). After this period, 9 patterns are used (4303, 3903, 5403,...). Today only 7.
  • | Usually pipes with fishtail bit receive a stamp (FT) next to the shape number.
  • | In the encircled group number, letter corresponding to the pipe finish: “S” for Shell; “A” for Bruyere; “T” for Tanshell and “R/B” for Red Bark. *9mm its about filter.
  • | 120, 196, P, R are old shape names from the '20s and '30s, which the Dunhill reintroduced for the White Spot Collection only.
  • | "F/T" (fishtail) mouthpiece was designed only in the 1930's.


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Special thanks to Mr. Hener (The White Spot Division) for his valuable contributions.
Yang (talk) 11:11, 7 January 2020 (CST)