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'''THE EXTRA LONG SHANK DUNHILL CANADIAN © 2001 JOHN C LORING:''' ''used by permission'' <br>

''Contributed by Jean-Christophe Bienfait''

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Yet unlike any other standard Dunhill shape that I know of, throughout that half century of apparent consistency one finds on rare occasion significantly longer shank versions of the ES with shanks running from 4" to almost 4 1/2" long (4 7/16"  being the longest I have ever seen or heard of) together with bowls a bit more reminiscent of the slightly smaller ones of the early 1920s.  

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This is not, as in the case of the 120 or LC a one or two year phenomena or a mid stream shape change implemented consistently thereafter, but rather it seems to be a significant variation that apparently might be found, albeit rarely, in any given year that the ES was produced (although most examples seem to come from the 1950's - 1960s era).  It is as if two quite distinct shapes share the same shape number – the typical version with an approximately 3” shank and the rare version with an approximately 4” shank -  notwithstanding that this was 'forbidden' under the individualized Dunhill shape identification system employed prior to the mid 1970s.

   

   

The 851 is a very rare pipe in any form, I have heard of only a handful and am familiar with only the one I own.  Interestingly, my 851 is in most all respects an extra long shank long ES although on close examination one finds that the bowl is slightly larger and the 4 1/8" shank is decidedly thicker at the bowl with a taper that thins to the bit. As the bit on my 851 is significantly longer then a normal ES bit the pipe as a whole is longer then an ES.  It has a 'heftier' feel as compared to a long shank ES, but ignoring the greater overall length of the 851 due to its longer bit, one would be hard pressed at first glance or from a distance to distinguish between the two.  One might assume that it was given Giant/ODA status because of the extra long shank but in fact I have been advised that most of the other known 851s have shorter shanks then mine.  

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More commonly found, the 850 is one of the few Giant/ODAs to be actually pictured in a Dunhill catalog (the 1968 Wholesale/Export).  As pictured in that catalog  one finds that its bowl and shank are slightly smaller and shorter the those of a typical ES and that the pipe is about the same overall length of the typical ES only because of a rather long, ‘851ish’,  bit.  However, as actually found outside the catalog, in collections, at pipe shows and on eBay,  the 850 is almost indistinguishable from the typical ES with a, longer then shown in the catalog, 3 1/4" shank and a shorter, then shown in the catalog, bit.  Looked at  closely though the 850 shank, like that of the 851, is a thicker at the bowl with a slight taper to the bit.  That is, while the 850, 851 and ES are all quite similar,  the 850 and 851 seem to differ from the ES principally in that the latter has a flat oval bit while the former two have tapered oval bits, and continuing, the 851 differs from the 850 in that the former has a longer bit and is overall a longer pipe.  And returning to the principal emphasis of this paper, like the ES and 851, on rare occasion the 850 too is found with a 4” or longer shank.