User talk:Sethile

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As per my other suggestion, perhaps it would be better to completely remove the Marks/Logo page altogether and just have a link at the bottom of each Brand/Maker's page to the Pipephil website for that particular Brand or Maker? --Frank - 3/26/09

Sure, that would work fine too. The advantage of the Marks/Logo page, assuming it were to get flushed out eventually, is for situations where someone is trying to identify a pipe with some sort of logo without knowing the maker. Regardless, I think relevant off site links should be added at the bottom of each article directly. --sethile 15:41, 26 March 2009 (CDT)
Lacking a Name Stamp, being able to identify a pipe from it's Logo alone would be useful. Pipephil does have a means of searching with criteria such as a Star or an Anchor or a Dot, etc., but it is lacking a couple of such criteria to search by, last I checked.--Frank - 3/26/09

Scott, Earlier on I checked on that item in Cyrillic that you deleted. I found a translation, and it is pipe related..--Frank - 4/13/09

Thanks, Frank! I put it back. I wondered about that.. I was a little on the delete button ;) --sethile 21:18, 13 April 2009 (CDT)

Notice for you

This thing needs a bit of scouring just to make it palatable to educated folk! C'mon, this is just lazy. I say "c'mon" because this is the talk page. The entry itself ought to be perfectly written, not sounding like a letter to a dopey pal in Wisconsin!Thundersnow 00:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)--A direct quote off the Tobacco page. It really needs work, that.Thundersnow 00:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Bridge Too Far?

QUOTE FROM ME: "Hello Eric, Thanks for your work on the Tobacco article. Yes, it does need a lot of work! Also, it would be great if you can help with the Savinellis article. In short, whatever you have time for would be most welcome in deed--I really appreciate your help! All the best, --sethile 01:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC) [....]

Uhm, I do not know any Eric except an old colleague. And I must say that it is just plain wrong to try to do that to a contributor who wished to remain known by username. And by the way, I am Rev. Antonio Hernandez.Thundersnow 03:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)"

Well, thanks a lot for this unwanted headache.Thundersnow 03:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Since the email address (, which you publicly posted, gave the name as Eric Blair, it was an understandable mistake on Scott's part, as he could hardly be aware that you use someone elses email address. I believe he was only trying to be friendly on a first name basis. Accusing him of "outing" you in such a heartless manner is a mean thing to do, since he obviously did not do it to deliberately "expose" you.
As you obviously aren't aware of the tremendous scope of this website, let me enlighten you of the fact that the vast majority of the design, information and contributions have been due to Scott's hard work. Furthermore, he is always extremely appreciative of corrections and contributions to the website.
Considering that you don't even know one iota about Scott, I find your jumping to conclusions about him offensive in the extreme. I also find your tone and attitude particularly rude and belligerent, especially as you claim to be a man of the cloth. - Frank 07:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Frank! For what it's worth I apologized on his user talk, but apparently that was not what Thundersnow was after. He has elected to deprive us of his presence and help for the present. All the best, --sethile 23:17, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

QuestyCaptcha not working?


I operate a wiki and I was going to install QuestyCaptcha. Can I ask, does your Aug 14th note about spam mean your Apr 13th installation of QuestyCaptcha isn't working?

Are the bots responding correctly to both questions or just one? (The "What is this wiki's name?" question is probably very common, so spambots might be configured to always stick in the wiki's name when confronted with QuestyCaptcha) If they're getting both questions right, then I guess a human actually took the time to note your questions and the correct answers, so adding a few dozen new questions is probably what's necessary.

I'd be very interested to hear more about the problem. Thanks. Ciaran 15:51, 16 August 2011 (CDT)

I'm not sure the bots responded to either question... It may just be my QuestyCaptcha configuration needs more tweaking. I installed it when I had a bunch of spam that appeared to use humans to make registered users in spite of using ReCaptcha (about 5 to 10 per day), and than that info seemed to be plugged into bots that used the registration information to spam. QuestyCaptcha shut that attack down. I had some new bot yesterday that was not spamming links, just junk. Looked like maybe it attempted to put in links and when it hit QuestyCaptcha it created new articles without links, or was deleting existing content and replacing it with a line like "Great post" or something similar. Apparently edits without links does not trigger QuestyCaptcha due to my settings.
It may be I can tighten up my QuestyCaptcha settings to catch this new stuff too. Haven't had time to play with it much. --sethile 16:20, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
I've been reading the docs:
... and the comments in the source code.
If you want all edits to require passing a captcha, change "false" to "true" in this line of nameofwiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit.php:
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; // Would check on every edit
I haven't tried it out yet, but it seems you can exempt logged in users from the captchas by setting:
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['skipcaptcha'] = true;
Or logged in users who've confirmed their email address by setting these to true in ConfirmEdit.php:
$wgGroupPermissions['emailconfirmed']['skipcaptcha'] = true;
$ceAllowConfirmedEmail = true;
Thanks for the quick reply. I think I'll go ahead and install Questy for my wiki. Ciaran 16:59, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
Thanks for the links! I've poored over those same docs too, but it's been a while. I changed the settings to allow anonymous edits again, but they will all trigger Questy while users will bypass it. To create an account triggers it though. That should take care of the bulk of the problems I've been having while still allowing anonymous edits. I guess we'll see!
How did your Questy install go? --sethile 21:03, 16 August 2011 (CDT)

Hi. I only got it installed three days ago. (I don't have direct access to the server.)

To my great surprise, I'm still getting two or three spam edits per day: [1] !

I'm baffled. I've searched the Internet extensively and I can't find anyone else saying that spam gets past QuestyCaptcha. I think I'll mention this on the site. Ciaran 17:48, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

My situation here seems to have stabilized for the present, although I had a new user and subsequent spam hit yesterday, but only one, and that was the first since I tweaked my Questy settings. It was different than most of the ones I've had in the past. I think it was a human... Your experience and my recent hit may mean the humans that were hired to work ReCaptcha implementations are now working on Questy sites. That makes some sense. I don't think it's possible to set up a captcha of any kind that will defend against humans without also severely limiting your potential contributions ;(
BTW, I hope your efforts against the Patent Trolls and other insanity with software patents proves fruitful. I heard a very interesting piece on NPR a month or so ago. Sounds like a completely out of control mess! I had no idea... --sethile 21:07, 3 September 2011 (CDT)


Dear Sethile You recieved like me a mail from these "other Gloredo" people. In my opinion there is no serious evidence for their activity in pipe making. The so called "Trademark Registration Certificate" you certainely got too has no value for me. I have to do with Chinese students and I know their degree certificate or diplom are sometimes "home made".

And for fun I made a little faux of this certificate changing "Gloredo" by "Dunhill"

see here

see also my comment in the gloredo's Talk. I think at least the two gloredos should appear on the GLOREDO page

Yes, I agree, and I responded in the Gloredo's talk as well. Regardless of the current status of the brand there is no reason not to include its history, which is way it is relevant... --sethile 09:38, 11 December 2012 (CST)
But there are TWO gloredos apparently. I think this should be clear in the article, no ?
OK, yes, I think I've got it now... I thought it was a buyout of some kind at first. What a mess!

Removal of Link

Why did you remove my link on the health effects of smoking cigars and pipes? It was a link to WebMD, a well respected source for medical info. LaughingBuddha (talk) 08:05, 10 January 2013 (CST)

Hello Laughing Buddha. Thanks for you input. While WebMD has a lot of good medical information, this particular article was typical of the medical literature that attempts to lump pipes and cigars in with cigarettes by establishing the idea that all forms of tobacco are evil. This article allowed for some minor differences, which is better than some articles, but there remains in it a number of well documented inaccuracies typical of the medical literature. If you are really interested in this subject you could read through some of the other material we have linked too.
In return, I would like to ask you why you linked to the article. I note that it is your one and only contribution to Pipedia, made shortly after you registered. My guess is your not really interested in pipes, but are just against tobacco. This wiki is for those of us who are interested in pipes and pipe smoking. Our take of this issue is going to be more nuanced than one would typically expect of the general public. --sethile (talk) 08:39, 10 January 2013 (CST)
I have mixed feelings about pipe smoking because I used smoke pipes on and off for 15 years. I have three Savinellis, two Nordings and one Dr. Grabow to prove it. Also, my favorite tobacco brand was Peter Stockkebye's. Unfortunately, I eventually became addicted and smoked so often that I was staining my teeth and burning my mouth. Also, my dentist repeatedly warned me of the dental problems associated with pipe smoking including mouth cancer, so I stopped, which was very difficult for me. (However, I recently noticed England's "Pipe Smoker of the Year" list on Wikipedia. Many of them lived past 70. I found this very confusing.)
I noticed your section titled Pipe Smoking Health and perused through it. It seemed to lack emphasis on the health hazards of pipe smoking. I sincerely believe pipe smokers should smoke with their eyes wide open with respect to the information on the health hazards of smoking and for that reason I added the WebMD link. By the way, I was planning to make other contributions that had nothing to do with health-related issues but my conscience would have bothered me had I not added information to the health section first.
Even though the health hazards of smoking scare the hell out of me, I still love admiring the craftsmanship and artistry of pipes themselves. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent looking at pics of pipes on the internet. It's like porn for me. LaughingBuddha (talk) 18:37, 10 January 2013 (CST)
Thanks very much for your reply. I'm glad to hear you're not anti tobacco and are just genuinely concerned about the risks. Pipe smoking certainly involves some increased health risk, but it has been greatly over exaggerated in the main stream health media, which tends to lump us all in with cigarette smokers. We have a slight increase risk for mouth and lip cancer, but that is very rare and to even slightly increase ones risk for them would involve smoking many more pipes per day than is typical of your average pipe smoker. Most pipe smokers do not inhale, which elevates nearly all the main risks associated with cigarette smoking. They also tend to smoke much less.
The WebMD article has one statement that is completely false and very misleading, "...research shows that cigar and pipe smoking is every bit as dangerous as cigarette smoking, and possibly even more dangerous". That is a ridiculous claim. They don't even attempt to back that up, or cite the research they refer to. Unless I am very much mistaken, there is no viable research that would even come close to supporting that statement.
I think it would be great to freshen up the Pipe Smoking Health area, but this is an issue that involves a great deal of misinformation from otherwise credible sources so it's going to be tough to pull off. For instance, there is a great deal of legitimate criticism with regards to the integrity of the research on the dangers associated with 2nd hand smoke, and that is seldom if ever reported in the main stream health media. BTW, none of that research differentiates between cigarettes and other forms of tobacco smoke, which typically contain much fewer chemical additives, burning paper, and other impurities associated with 2nd hand cigarette smoke.
I hope you will do some more research. You mentioned being surprised at the older pipe smokers that were cited in the Pipe Smoker of Year list. I've heard of one study that indicates moderate pipe smokers that do not inhale actually live slightly longer on average than non-smokers. I have not followed up on that to verify it yet, but that is certainly supported by my own anecdotal observations and pipe smoking can certainly reduce stress.
If in your research you would like to freshen up the Pipe Smoking Health article here on Pipedia, I would greatly appreciate it. It's even OK to link to articles such as the WebMD article you had linked too earlier, but it would be appropriate to point out any obvious flaws with the article if you do. Thanks again for your reply. I look forward to your contributions on this or other areas of Pipedia that may be of interest. --sethile (talk) 22:33, 10 January 2013 (CST)
Thanks, your response strikes me as very reasonable. By the way, would you happen to have a link on the information you mentioned about the longevity of pipe smokers? I'd be very interested in reading it. LaughingBuddha (talk) 08:15, 11 January 2013 (CST)
It apparently refers back to the original 1964 Surgeon General's report. Here is an interesting and fairly written article by Mark Beale, MD that mentions it as well as some other interesting and relevant information that rings credible to me, at least.
Thanks LaughingBuddha (talk) 14:34, 11 January 2013 (CST)

New Question

What's the difference between an estate pipe and a conventional pipe? LaughingBuddha (talk) 12:34, 11 January 2013 (CST)

Nothing, really. Used or previously owned pipes have come to be known as Estate pipes. They can either be smoked or unsmoked and still qualify. They can be cheap or expensive, and still qualify, and they can come from an English Lord's estate, or picked up off of a dying bum on the street. It just sounds better. I guess like previously owned cars versus used cars ;) --sethile (talk) 12:41, 11 January 2013 (CST)
Thanks LaughingBuddha (talk) 14:34, 11 January 2013 (CST)


Saw you're working on african meerschaum a bit, figured I'd throw what I could into the ring.

No expert, but I think the way it went on these is that Amboseli wasn't a pipe company, it's the name of one of the african meerschaum mines, the one that closed in Tanzania in 2006. I realize pipephil disagrees on that one. Tanganyika Meerchaum Corporation, LTD was founded in December 1955 in Kenya with nominal capital of 50,000 pounds. The internet will tell you they later moved from there to Arusha, Tanzania, which is both a city and also the region containing the Amboseli mines, when they trademarked their logo in September '68. That's actually wrong. The registered agent for TMC, Ltd. in 1955 wasn't in Kenya, it was in Tanga, Tanganyika. However, at the time, these were colonies, and joint ones. Stamps actually said "kenya, uganda, tanganyika" on them and were valid in all three. So they were always in Arusha. They owned Kilimanjaro and Kiko. Also Townsman, Countryman, a bunch of lines. However, as the mines are now closed, TMC, Ltd. is technically now owned by STAMICO, a wholly owned government enterprise under the tanzanian ministry of energy and minerals.

At some point the Tanzanian pipes were being listed in the Charles S. Loeb catalog, as Kikos and Kilimanjaros, not sure if they bought TMC, Ltd. or licensed the pipes from them.

The other mine that produced meerschaum was in Somalia, from Eilbur/El Burr, where somalis have made meerschaum incense burners for centuries. Apparently this block was cut into stummels and sold in its entirety to Laxey/Manx straight from Somalia, and is no longer available since Somalia fell apart. When you see a smooth african meerschaum, it's my understanding you're looking at somalian block.

Do with that what you will.

Chris --Flatticus (talk) 20:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Wow, that's interesting, thanks, Chris! Kind of hard to know what to put where, but I'll take a stab at sorting that out when I get a chance... It's not unusual to have difficult to sort out histories in pipedom, along with the occasional controversy surrounding them ;) --sethile (talk) 19:52, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

No doubt. At least it doesn't take a flowchart like Comoy/GBD/Chacom and such.

--Flatticus (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Photo question

Was curious, and I probably missed it in the help, but is there a preferred size for photos? I need to get around to finally taking some, figured it couldn't hurt to grab some nomenclature snaps and such.


Somewhere between 600 and 1000 pixels wide seems to be a good range. By using thumbnails and/or gallery spots in the articles we can accommodate a nice fit with the context while still allowing for full sized images when they're clicked on. Takes a while to get the hang of how that works, but I'll be happy to help if you hit any snags.
It would be great to have more pics of nomenclature, and anything else you think relevant. It's great to see all your work in new and existing articles. Thanks very much for your help, Chris! Scott --sethile (talk) 15:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm learning a heck of a lot, too.


Changes do, indeed, look seamless. Everything seems to be working and displaying perfectly. How unusual, lol.


Great! Yes, my son, John User talk:Gilrain has pretty amazing skills with the back end stuff! Even with that I was surprised he pulled off this transition seemingly without a hitch. Still, you never know! Please let us know if you happen into anything. And thanks as always for all your excellent work! --sethile (talk) 06:51, 12 May 2015 (CDT)

Saw you had to revert some of the changes to the Turks, hope I hadn't crossed any wires. No changes but mine while you were gone.

I accidentally reverted your changes somehow and than reverted them back! Not sure how that happened. Sorry for any confusion. If anything is still messed up please put it back to how you had it... Thanks for keeping such a good eye on things!--sethile (talk) 19:08, 17 May 2015 (CDT)

No worries. And I'm just in the habit of checking "recent changes" so I happened to notice it, lol. Glad to see you're back in the saddle.

Chris --Flatticus (talk) 19:13, 17 May 2015 (CDT)

Glossary Addition?

What do you think about adding a glossary link to the main page. I'll get it started on the basics, and see if it grows. Nothing fancy, mostly to help new guys I'd suppose.

--Flatticus (talk) 09:44, 21 May 2015 (CDT)

Yes!! That's a great idea, Chris!! We have a fast growing population of new pipe smokers using the site, and I think your glossary idea would be a fantastic resource to them!
If you have something to work from already, or want to build it from scratch, that would be great, but if you want to save some development time we could build it from this one at smokingpipes: and build our version out from there. If we use theirs to start we just need to make sure to credit them and link back to their version. Either way works great for me! Thanks for the fantastic idea and willingness to tackle it! --sethile (talk) 10:03, 21 May 2015 (CDT)

I did one for Reddit at some point, I probably still have it around, and if not it goes pretty quick, but SP does have a good one, I'll check it out again. Threw up a blank page to start working on, I'll let it fill up a bit and then add a link.

Perfect, thanks, Chris! --sethile (talk) 10:39, 21 May 2015 (CDT)

--Flatticus (talk) 10:13, 21 May 2015 (CDT)

Grabow Shapes

Hope it's kosher, working with RJ McKay to get a linkman's era grabow shape chart put together, you'll see the recent changes/uploads. he has an enormous amount of info that shouldn't go to waste. Still working on the glossary, but I do love my linkman's.

--Flatticus (talk) 16:06, 24 May 2015 (CDT)

Yes! The new shape chart stuff looks great! I love getting that kind of material included when we still have access to it! Lost a lot of great stuff from a very knowledgeable Kaywoodie collector a few years ago and have never let myself forget it. We've got to nail that stuff down while we still have the expertise available! Good work, Chris! Thanks! --sethile (talk) 16:19, 24 May 2015 (CDT)

Didn't know that about Svend Hangaard, very cool!

I though so too! I'm having a lot of fun while recovering from surgery. Can't make pipes yet, but I can sure enjoy researching and working on Pipedia! Great work on the Glossary, btw! That is really coming together nicely! --sethile (talk) 20:42, 2 June 2015 (CDT)

Thanks! Shouldn't be too long now. Hope the recovery goes well and quickly.


Still working on the glossary, but I think it's big enough to let people have at it. Where should I link it?

--Flatticus (talk) 18:38, 4 June 2015 (CDT)

Yes, it is looking great! Definitely ready to start linking it places. I need to spend a little time cleaning up some inathctive links on the left nav bar first, and then link it there. Also the mobile responsive version of that, which my son will have to do for us. I think also from the main page, which also needs some updating at this point. I'll get after the nav bar tomorrow morning. Do you have any other ideas? --sethile (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2015 (CDT)

Thanks, Scott, a few. I've been trying to learn about blending for a bit, and I've been thinking about some tools to help with that. If I knew how to make a flow chart I'd have done that already. Sort of a "you want to add sweet to a blend?" Then add this kind of thing. Either combined with or similar to some thoughts on tasting as well. And I've definitely been slacking on a bunch of meerschaum stuff. Like an "Is this pressed?" page with photos. I have a pressed meer around here somewhere I can show some differences with. I have a buddy who I think has written an estate pipe buyer's guide or started to, and if not I'll probably put together some kind of "things to look out for" page at some point. Also thought about talking some people into putting a topic of pipe pondering they're interested in down on paper. Like the Dutch Pipe Smoker, Arno, for example, his knowledge is pretty incredible. And of course there are still bunches of wanted pages and pipe mysteries to explore. Good thing I find all of this stuff so fascinating! Plus, I've been ogling a lot of new photos. Great stuff. Hope the recuperation goes well!


Your Glossary is now linked from the nav bar, as well as the main page. This is great! It will be great to keep developing it, but it's already extremely helpful! Thanks very much for pulling that together.
Blending information sounds like an excellent direction, and some kind of flow chart graphic or narrative on how to tweak flavor elements would be very helpful! Timely topic for me too. I have done a very limited amount of tweaking existing blends, and want to do more. In part, I have some tobacco growing. Too early to tell if it will make it all the way to harvest, but I'm growing Nadole (a variety of Kentucky Dark), and also some Burley (can't remember the variety). Incidentally, Kentucky Dark can be air cured, as well as fire cured. It is likely related to Burley, but is different than Burley. It's darker, and the leaves tend to be smaller, and it generally has a higher nicotine content. We live in the heart of the Black Patch region of Western KY, where Kentucky Dark is growing all around us here. Had to give it a try! If it makes it through the harvest and a bit of air curing process, I'll also try to fire some of it, but haven't figured out how to pull that off yet on a scale that will work for just a few plants. Build a very little barn of some kind, I guess!
Have often wanted to see more on Meers! That would be great too, and an estate pipe buyers guide would be fantastic!
Let me know if you see anywhere else to link the Glossary that might be helpful, or please feel free to link at will when you notice a good spot. Thanks so much for all your work and ideas. It's an amazing help and encouragement!
Recovery is going better than I thought. And, it's great to have some time to play with Pipedia, which has also really helped me to keep from going crazy while I can't do much physically! Incidentally, recovering from a much more minor surgery is how I cam up with Pipedia in the first place! Thanks again, Chirs! --sethile (talk) 07:48, 5 June 2015 (CDT)

Glad to hear it. And fascinated by the growing, that's my next leap, but I live on the surface of the sun apparently here in South Florida, so gardening has its own issues. For now I'll at least keep trying to catch when I run across a word that may need explaining and try to link from there, but not to the degree wikipedia does it. And I'll have to think about how to fire cure in miniature, but I bet you could flue cure the heck out of it with a barbecue smoker and a dog house with vents, lol. And I love doing this stuff, only in small part because of how much I learned here, but you're very welcome. There has never been a resource like this for smokers. Ever.

--Flatticus (talk) 09:25, 5 June 2015 (CDT)

Just noticed the banner ads on the complete corncob primer are blank. You're probably aware, but just in case.

cc --Flatticus (talk) 20:00, 8 June 2015 (CDT)

Interesting. I was not aware of that and just checked. They were showing up fine for me. And they showed up on my phone and tablet too. Had my wife check on her computer and they did not show! Turns out she uses an add blocker. When she switched it off, presto, there they were! Interesting in that it was only catching the Missouri Meerschaum ones and not ones for the other underwriters in terms of stuff in content, but all of them were blocked in the top and bottom positions that are part of the skin... So, my big question is, do you have add blocking enabled on your browser? Bet so...
Pretty sure the reason the add blocker was catching the Missouri Meerschaum banners in content like that and not other underwriters was that the MM banners had "AD" in the file name, and the others did not. I changed the file names, but my wife's add blocker still caught them. I suspect the images themselves are now recognized by the add blocker independent of the file name.
Thanks for the heads up on this, Chris! Very interesting! --sethile (talk) 22:10, 8 June 2015 (CDT)

Just saw this. And yes, I have adblock enabled. Nice detective work, lol.

--Flatticus (talk) 06:54, 10 June 2015 (CDT)

Au Pacha

Lopes and The Pipe Companion book both have this one wrong. I'll change it later, just giving a heads up why, it's actually a tobacconist called Au Pacha de Nancy, they're actually still there, although it looks like a souvenir shop now. I have a picture of the Diana pipe somewhere. It's nuts. The steed is rearing because there's some kind of demonic hellhound trying to eat it, it's a pipe with a lot going on, lol.

Thanks for letting me know! Yes, please do correct it! And it would be great to have that picture as part of it if you can find it...
I've run into several inaccuracies with Lopes. It's a great book, and a huge blessing that he put it together, but you can't trust the entries without pulling up some additional corroborative sources. Thanks for keeping an eye out! --sethile (talk) 20:01, 9 June 2015 (CDT)

Sure, just one I've ogled before. And it's confusing, there were like 11 Au Pachas, even the Europeans have it wrong. I put the picture up. She should probably find a different hunting spot. I didn't mention it, either, but the Nashville museum closed, Dr. Sarunas "Sharkey" Peckus is the last known owner of this one, along with an incredible number of historically important meerschaums I'd like to have. He co-wrote the Rappaport porcelain pipe book. Never met or met anyone who has met him, but his collection is ridiculous. Got the big award in Chicago in '09.

Have a great one! --Flatticus (talk) 10:50, 10 June 2015 (CDT)

Fantastic to have that straightened out, along with the photo! Thanks! That's a good example of the crazy rats nest of information out there when it comes to pipes! I'm in Nashville a lot, and tried to track that museum down at one point when I found it had been closed down. Too bad. That's a great little book, though! --sethile (talk) 11:02, 10 June 2015 (CDT)

== Lopes ==--Flatticus (talk) 18:51, 27 June 2015 (CDT)

I don't have the book myself, only bits and pieces, but if you have it scanned and want to send me a chunk I'll share the effort.

--Flatticus (talk) 10:21, 12 June 2015 (CDT)

That's a wonderful offer, Chris, thanks! Just sent you an E-mail... It's been interesting, but more than a bit daunting. Couple other similar projects to do at some point too, and they may prove even more challenging! --sethile (talk) 12:52, 12 June 2015 (CDT)

Haven't disappeared, just swamped with work for the last couple of weeks, don't worry, lol. --Flatticus (talk) 18:51, 27 June 2015 (CDT)

Great to hear from you! No Problem! That's going to happen to me too come July... Hand in there! --sethile (talk) 18:56, 27 June 2015 (CDT)

Mark Stewart

Hey, Scott, you may be in your crazy period, I'm just coming out of mine I think Monday. In the meantime, I sadly learned yesterday that Mark Stewart, who went by periqueguy on the forums, has passed away. I don't know if you and he were acquainted, I only knew him a very little from his posts myself. He doesn't have a page here, but I'm going to go ahead and add one, and note him as a broken pipe. Wanted to bring it to your attention in case there's a process to that I don't know, and just for the sad sake of it all.

--Flatticus (talk) 14:41, 17 July 2015 (CDT)

Very sorry to hear about Mark. Yes, by all means, please add an article on him. Any information about him and his work would be great! I only knew him from the forum, but very sad to hear he is no longer with us...
I'm on a trip now and will head into a very busy time at work when I get back... Was fun to have some focused time on Pipedia, and it kept me from going nuts during the early part of recovery! --sethile (talk) 22:50, 17 July 2015 (CDT)i

Travel safe. Don't worry, I'll step up the effort now that you're back in fighting shape and under constant demand again, lol.

--Flatticus (talk) 05:25, 18 July 2015 (CDT)

Where does the time go...

Looks like you're dealing with some real fun lately, sorry I've been so absent. Still haven't quite wrapped my head around the best way to start attacking the PSE, but stop in now like daily to start before something catches fire at work. Figured I should at least let you know I'm alive, and empathizing.

--Flatticus (talk) 16:36, 16 August 2015 (CDT)

Great to hear from you, Chris! Thanks for checking in... Yes, the idea of diving into to the PSE project is daunting!! No pressure on that or other work here! It's great to have your help, and I totally understand that other things must take priority. Speaking of that, I've been back to work at the university for 2 weeks. The semester starts Tuesday.. And I have also been trying to get some pipes made for an upcoming show in Columbus. I miss the more focused time with things here I had for a while, but still dip an oar in now and then, and generally keep an eye on things... It's great to know it's here waiting for us when we have time to do it! --sethile (talk) 18:19, 16 August 2015 (CDT)

Weird dead link.

This page is impossible to link properly for some highly technical reason that's beyond me. Shows up blank when you link it anywhere. Shame, it's a good article. This link is dead, too, but if you search for "Fallon" it comes up and you can click it and see the text. No idea how that's possible.,_Hello_Pipe!

Hmm... That is strange. This should be the direct internal link: Good-Bye Cigarettes, Hello Pipe!, and this should be the direct external one,_Hello_Pipe!
Well that's odd. The internal link works fine. That is likely not a kosher URL, and I'll bet it has something to do with that exclamation point. It's odd how it displays in the link compared to when viewing it in the editor. I'll try renaming it, and also setting up a rederict.
OK, that seems to be working. You can get to it either way. For the record, this is now the article location for an internal link: Good-Bye Cigarettes, Hello Pipe , and this is for an external link:,_Hello_Pipe , but even the old way should work now because of the redirect. Is that as clear as mud?? Thanks for pointing this out, Chris. It is a great article!

Another weird dead link.

Found this one by accident. Another one showing up dead if linked. I'm still coming back to get about a billion pages cleaned up any time, by the way. Not sure what the heck happened to the last half a year.

Sure enough... It's the period at the end, and it depends on platform specific formatting. For instance, Mediawiki here interprets that as a link followed by a period, when the link should actually include the period. Anyway, I fixed it by dropping the period from the name and setting up a redirect from the old one, so we can have our period, and eat it too ;)
Great to hear you're still into to doing some stuff! I totally understand about the time... I have about a million irons in the fire right now... The cool thing about this project is it sits here waiting for us anytime, there is no end of stuff to do, and no one dies if it takes us a while to get around to it!! --sethile (talk) 10:38, 6 January 2016 (CST)

Revision to add links to DSH Pipes page

Hey Scott,

I noticed your revisions this morning. I'm not sure what happened, but the formatting, images, and links other than the ones you mentioned in your revision were lost. I'm unsure why you did this revision as links to my mentors' pages were already in place. I undid your revisions to restore the work I did yesterday. Please have a look and let me know if links to my mentors' pages are not working correctly for you. The links work for me.

Thanks for your attentiveness to this Wiki!

Sincerely, David

Hello David! Sorry about that... Apparently I was editing the older version instead of the newer one. I've simplified the links. Hopefully all your other changes are still there this time! Let me know if you see anything amiss.... --sethile (talk) 11:30, 31 July 2018 (CDT)
Hey Scott, No worries! I really appreciate how attentive you are to the wiki. The new simplified links work great and all of my edits appear to be how I wanted them. Thanks again! -David