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<blockquote><q>We checked our stamp registers, the small square is not registered as a factory stamp. We can only assume that it is an after-factory stamp; possibly it was added by the point-of-sale, but we have no knowledge of this.</q> Hener, K. S., Product Line Director - The White Spot Smoker's Accessory Division and Walthamstow site.</blockquote> | <blockquote><q>We checked our stamp registers, the small square is not registered as a factory stamp. We can only assume that it is an after-factory stamp; possibly it was added by the point-of-sale, but we have no knowledge of this.</q> Hener, K. S., Product Line Director - The White Spot Smoker's Accessory Division and Walthamstow site.</blockquote> | ||
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<q>I have seen subscript square stops on DRs dating from the 1910s to 1922 stamped either before or after DUKE ST S.W. or LONDON. Other then the subscript stop noted with respect to a Root DR I have seen no such markings in connection with the root finish. However, I have seen a subscript square | <q>I have seen subscript square stops on DRs dating from the 1910s to 1922 stamped either before or after DUKE ST S.W. or LONDON. Other then the subscript stop noted with respect to a Root DR I have seen no such markings in connection with the root finish. However, I have seen a subscript square in 1931 and 1937 Shells following the shape/category stampings. Likewise, a square subscript stop has been found on a late '30s DR immediately following the "DRR" stamping (which is stamped where the "A" would normally be found on a Bruyere). I have found no information as to the rationale for these seemingly random circles, stops, and numbers, but since there is nothing else random about the Dunhill nomenclature I strongly suspect that these ancillary stamps, in fact, began as uptick work/quality/pricing codes.</q> Loring, J. C., The Dunhill Briar Pipe, The Patent Years and After (self-published, Chicago, 1998). | ||
On [http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/dunhill/patent3.html Pipephil] we have this information: <q>The little squares are typical to older DR stampings. Their meaning is not established but may be related to pricing categories.</q> But Loring considered this in one of his articles: | On [http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/dunhill/patent3.html Pipephil] we have this information: <q>The little squares are typical to older DR stampings. Their meaning is not established but may be related to pricing categories.</q> But Loring considered this in one of his articles: | ||
<blockquote><q>Information not reported here strongly indicates that while stop stampings continued after the early 1930s for Root DRs and into the post-WWII period, both the placement of stops and grade system changed dramatically. In light of some inquiries and loose remarks on eBay, it should also be noted that while one often sees stop stampings with standard Bruyeres (i.e. non DRs) of the 1910s and 1920s before either an A or a circled (A) there is no indication from the catalogs that these stops were value indicators. Undoubtedly whether a standard Bruyere pipe during this period was stamped with a circled or uncircled A or followed by a stop was meaningful, but that meaning most probably related to production or distribution concerns as opposed to grading or value.</q> Loring, [[Grading the Pre World War II Dunhill Bruyere DR]].</blockquote> | <blockquote><q>Information not reported here strongly indicates that while stop stampings continued after the early 1930s for Root DRs and into the post-WWII period, both the placement of stops and grade system changed dramatically. In light of some inquiries and loose remarks on eBay, it should also be noted that while one often sees stop stampings with standard Bruyeres (i.e. non DRs) of the 1910s and 1920s before either an A or a circled (A) there is no indication from the catalogs that these stops were value indicators. Undoubtedly whether a standard Bruyere pipe during this period was stamped with a circled or uncircled A or followed by a stop was meaningful, but that meaning most probably related to production or distribution concerns as opposed to grading or value.</q> Loring, [[Grading the Pre World War II Dunhill Bruyere DR]].</blockquote> | ||
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<blockquote><q>"H.W" was another pre-war stamping and meant 'Hand Worked'. This stamp was used, sometimes in conjunction with subscript square stops, to identify hand carved versions of standard, machine carved, shapes. An "HW" stamping was not necessarily indicative of higher pricing.</q> Loring, J. C., The Dunhill Briar Pipe, The Patent Years and After (self-published, Chicago, 1998). </blockquote> | <blockquote><q>"H.W" was another pre-war stamping and meant 'Hand Worked'. This stamp was used, sometimes in conjunction with subscript square stops, to identify hand carved versions of standard, machine carved, shapes. An "HW" stamping was not necessarily indicative of higher pricing.</q> Loring, J. C., The Dunhill Briar Pipe, The Patent Years and After (self-published, Chicago, 1998). </blockquote> | ||
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From the very early days and up until the early 1970s, Dunhill used a 6 as a prefix to the shape code to indicate that the pipe was made with a saddle-bit stem. For example, a Shape R indicates a pot-shaped bowl with a tapered stem, and a 6R would be the same bowl but with a saddle-bit stem, or 660, 639, and so forth. | From the very early days and up until the early 1970s, Dunhill used a 6 as a prefix to the shape code to indicate that the pipe was made with a saddle-bit stem. For example, a Shape R indicates a pot-shaped bowl with a tapered stem, and a 6R would be the same bowl but with a saddle-bit stem, or 660, 639, and so forth. | ||
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