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Announcement! I've just updated Pipedia to Mediawiki 1.15.0. Please let me know if you notice any strange or unexpected behaviors. --sethile [1] 02:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Lots of spam here lately so I have protected this page so that only registered users can contribute. --sethile 16:20, 4 May 2009 (CDT)

What do you think we should strive to do with Pipedia?

Obviously, as with any wiki, this site will be defined by the interests of its contributors. Pipedia has the potential to be a great resource--constantly evolving with historical and current information about the entire scope of the World of tobacco pipes. Please contribute as you have the time, interest, and knowledge.

The current focus has been building articles on pipe makers. The main page could also be a take off point for sub pages on the history of pipes, pipe tobaccos, packing techniques, pipe cleaning, repair, restoration, pipe making, and pretty much any other pipe related topics. Some of these sections have their own pages, for now linked to from Sections Under Development. They each have extensive sub levels, and several of them could become even more extensive. Open for suggestions as to the best way to organize this.

Please discuss any ideas you have for Pipedia here.

If you need any help contributing, please let me know. I'll be happy to help you get started. E-mail me at mailto:sethile.pipes@gmail.com S

More Contributors Needed

Come on all you Pipemakers, Pipe Smokers & interested parties. Please contribute information to help make this the most comprehensive Pipe/Pipemaker encyclopedia on the internet.

Frank

Organization

The main page size got too big, which happened once before. This is great, BTW! It's a good sign! I've bought us some wiggle room again by moving Heather's clay pipe article, and the alternative wood sections into their own articles.

Another option would be to have separate articles listing pipe makers for each country (I actually started it that way at first, but did not like it as much). I think we may have room to grow again now, at least for a while, and I like having all the makers coming off of the main page, but I can see that might eventually become impossible. If so, it's a great problem to have!

If we need to split them up, it would facilitate more history about pipe making in each area. I suppose we could do it by continent first, and then list by country again.

I'm completely open to suggestions on any of this. If you have any solutions in terms of organization, and keeping the main page a manageable size just let me know. --sethile 23:51, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

Hey guys. Any thought to using categories here? It seems like a nice way to keep things organized. link here to mediawiki's category page If you don't mind, I'll set up one or two categories, and see if you like it. We can always roll back the changes. Bmackenty 10:51, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

I think using categories is a great idea. I'd thought about it before, but never explored it. I'm be very interested in seeing what you come up with for us. Thanks! --sethile 18:37, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

I added the "pipe making" category to the Argentinian pipe makers. If you like, I can add more. I like categories because as the wiki grows, managing and organizing a large amount of information becomes difficult. But of course, please tell me what you think. If you don't like them, it's very easy to remove. Bmackenty 08:21, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
Oh yes, I see the possibilities. Very cool.... Should we also organize the pipe makers by country or region by listing that as a sub-category? For the present, how would this tie into the main page? I guess for now we keep them listed separately there, but is there a way we could pull in the sub-category pages instead? Thanks very much for your input and help! --sethile 09:38, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
Yup. Here's what I'll do. I'll make the pipe maker: nation subcategory. and assign polish and Argentinian pipe makers. If you like it, we can easily add more :-) When a visitor comes to the category page then will see categories and subcategories. For example, under pipe makers, they will see an alphabetized list of all argentina pipe makers, and then polish pipe makers and then Danish pipe makers, etc... I'll add Argentina and Poland in a moment, and then if you like we can continue. Happy to help and support a hobby I genuinely enjoy Bmackenty 09:52, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
ok. The category and sub category pages are done. you can see Polish and Argentinian pipes, and of course, click on Polish category to see only polish pipes. I might one more country, just so you can see what it looks like. Bmackenty 10:38, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

Great new feature! But I find it a little bit confusing to sort the pipemakers following their first names. Very teutonic, I know ;-) But there's the fundamental problem that some pipemakers use a brand / sales name and others don't. How to find a consistant nomenclature or systematics here on Pipedia? YOUR thoughts?

good point. Maybe I can add a (country) after their name? hmmm. I'll try some different permutations. Thanks for the feedback! Bmackenty 14:22, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
Well, here's the thing. Right now the category page shows pipes by country - so if a visitor clicks on a countries name, they will see a list of pipe makers. Are the names we use here generally the names the pipe makers use? So if I click on Denmark, I will see a list of Danish pipe makers by the name they wish to be associated with. Maybe we don't need to change anything, but have a note at the top of the category page which explains that some pipe makers have different names? Bmackenty 14:40, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

Thanks or your reply, Bill! To give an example, there are 6 Johnsons... Version 1 would be

  • J
  • David Johnson (Ozark Mountain Briars)
  • Richard Johnson
  • Stephen Johnson (Alpine Briars)
  • Steve Johnson
  • Todd M. Johnson (STOA Briars)
  • Tom Johnson (Luna Pipes)

Version 2 would look like

  • A
  • Alpine Briars (Stephen Johnson)
  • J
  • Richard Johnson
  • Steve Johnson
  • L
  • Luna Pipes (Tom Johnson)
  • O
  • Ozark Mountain Briars (David Johnson)
  • S
  • STOA Briars (Todd M. Johnson)

There's another problem: "John Aylesbury" (DE), "Mauro Cateni" (IT), "Peter Rasmussen" (DK) and others more are not real persons but fictional names. In these cases I'd lean forward to sort "Mauro Cateni" (e.g.) under M. -- Now, as far as I can see, we haven't applied a standard consequently yet. That's making it difficult. For sure, doing it from now on would make it necassary to re-name numerous pages and alter x internal links. I'm aware of that, but have no clue at the moment. TseHa

Bill, wow, the categories look extremely promising, thanks! TseHa, good points! I have long thought we should have some sort of pipe maker article naming convention that can accommodate the main variables. Most of the articles are Firstname Lastname. Perhaps we could also include other names that pipe maker is working under using redirects to the main article, with those also categorized so they appear in the category lists. Would that work? I don't know what listing possibilities there are within the categories, but perhaps Bill can come up with the best solution for us. I am very glad to have all the help for you both, and just sorry I was not better organized from the start. Now we have a little work to clean up once we get this on the right track! --sethile 16:19, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
I like the idea of redirects rather than re-naming the original articles; it seems tedious. I was planning on trying to categorize another 2 or 3 countries today (only in pipe-making - we can discuss other categories when I'm done) but considering our current discussion, should I hold off? Bmackenty 08:29, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
Bill, I think you should feel free to go ahead with the category project. I can't think of a better way to organize this. We may have some work to do with redirects etc.., but unless I'm missing something I can't see that would effect the categories. Thanks so much for your help! --sethile 16:26, 31 March 2008 (EDT)


A section for PIPE CLUBS would be nice

Good point! The link section certainly needs more structure...
Great Idea! I agree, perhaps even starting a different article for clubs. I would also like to start a separate article for tobacconists which specialize in pipes and pipe tobacco. My thinking is that both of these could and should be organized by location using categories. Dive in if you like, or I'll try to start something like this when I'm back from my trip (currently fly fishing in Stanley ID, and found a coffee shop with wireless--not bad for a town with a year round population of under 100 brave souls!). --sethile 15:09, 11 July 2008 (CDT)

I love the old pictures and art work about pipes. Also, famous or not so famous pipe smokers photos. I would like to see a gallery.

You can see a gallery of images here Special:Newimages, otherwise they are simply embedded in the articles. Images could also be categorized and eventually listed that way. What do you mean exactly? If you have an idea for how this would work, please feel free to give it a try. Thanks! --sethile 06:41, 10 December 2008 (CST)

спасибо за сайт (Thanks for The Site)

Thank you REALLY! Where have you been the last five years of my life? You only appeared on Google for me today! User:Webpoppy8 2012-06-11


Здравствуйте! Сайт приятный, хорошо оформлен. С удовольствием буду посещать!

Rough Translation: Hello! The site pleasant, is well issued. With pleasure I will visit! --Frank 4/17/09


Привет!!! Вот случайненько забрёл на ваш сайт и к своему удивлению обнаружил что здесь просто куча полезной информации, обязательно забегу сюда ещё раз, так как сейчас нет времени. 100% буду советовать вас своим друзьям! Счастливо!!

Rough Translation: Greetings!!! Here случайненько has come on your site and to the surprise has found out that here simply heap of the helpful information, I will necessarily run here once again as now there is no time. 100 % I will advise you to the friends! Happily!!--Frank 4/17/09
Thanks, Frank--I'm very glad to have the translation! --sethile 12:32, 18 April 2009 (CDT)
Actually, I think the above is just spam. It's not pipe related. I just deleted an identical post to the last one translated. I guess we can leave these here for a bit though... --sethile 10:12, 23 April 2009 (CDT)
OK, Scott. If it's duplicated again, we remove it all and block the IP. --Frank 4/17/09