Guide de datation des Comoy’s

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Guide de datation des Comoy’s

Généralités

Certains changements de nomenclature au cours de la longue histoire de Comoy aident à déterminer des périodes approximatives. Ces changements comprennent :

  1. l’époque à laquelle le nom de Comoy fut marqué sur le côté gauche de la pipe.
  2. l’époque où apparaît le marquage « Country of origin »
  3. l’arrivée et les différentes façons dont le « C » incrusté était monté sur le tuyau.
  4. le nom de série de la pipe et la façon dont ces noms furent introduits et/ou abandonnés.

Il faut aussi se souvenir que, lorsque les griffes utilisées pour marquer les pipes étaient usées on en commandait de nouvelles qui pouvaient être utilisées en même temps que les anciennes et il pouvait ainsi y avoir chevauchement de différents types.


Si la pipe a une bague d’argent

Si la bague comporte les trois poinçons qui suivent, c’est une bague d’argent. Le premier, un lion passant pour indiquer qu’il s’agit d’argent, suivi par un poinçon qui indique l’endroit (par exemple une tête de léopard pour Londres) et enfin une lettre indiquant l’année.

NB: Il y a toujours la possibilité que les bagues d’argent aient été commandées en lots par l’usine et aussi bien aient été utilisées avec un retard de plusieurs mois voire une année lorsqu’elles sont appliquées sur la pipe. Elles peuvent également avoir été fixées après coup pour réparer une fêlure etc…

This is a list with examples of hallmarked pipes to illustrate the different nomenclature to be found:

  1. - 1902 hallmarked and with HC without a cartouche. The only other stamp is “LONDON MADE.”
  2. - 1904 hallmarked, and now the HC is set within a cartouche, which was the style from then on. Stamped on the side “J.R.” in an oval and “LONDON MADE”. (Comoy’s supplied many shops that had their name stamped on the side of the pipe. J.R. was obviously one.) There is no C on the mouthpiece.
  3. - 1913/14 hallmarked. The name “Comoy’s” on the left side in rather florid script, and there is a tail running backwards from the end of the “s”, finishing under the “o”. This is similar to the tail found on early Sasieni pipes. Under the “Comoy’s" stamp is “LONDON MADE” in block capitals all the same size, sans serif. There is no embossed C on the stem, nor any name or shape number. On the lid of the leather case, there is an oval cartouche with the same “Comoy’s.” There are no C on the mouthpieces.
  4. - 1917/18 “PRIMA” and, on this pipe, the “Comoy’s” is in the same script as above, but, instead of the tail running backwards under the name, the “y” has a long drop down and then sweeps forward to end under the “s.” “PRIMA” is directly below “Comoy’s” in capitals all the same size and without serifs. On the other side of the pipe is “LONDON MADE” in the same stamp as 1 to 3 above. There is no C inlaid on the stem. Just to illustrate how different stamps can be used at the same time, another Prima dated 1917 have the Comoy’s Arched, which just goes to show that more than one type of stamp was used consequently. There is no C on the mouthpiece.
  5. - 1921 Old Bruyere with hallmarked gold band. “COMOY’S” arched with “IN” below and “BRUYERE” arched the other way. On the other side, “MADE” arched, “IN” below, and “LONDON” arched the other way. These stamps are an oval rugby-ball shape rather than a round football. There is no C on the mouthpiece
  6. - 1959/1960 hallmarked 22 carat gold band. This pipe has a meerschaum-lined bowl and wonderful straight grain. It has "COMOY'S" stamped in upper case serif type with apostrophe. On the reverse, it has the “MADE IN LONDON” circle shape with “ENGLAND” underneath. The stem has the three-piece C.


Comoy’s Name

1900 to about 1919

Normally, the Comoy’s name will be found in a joined flowing script canted forward, with a long tail running backwards from under the “S” to below the “C.” There are, however, 2 pipes in the 1909 catalogue where Comoy’s does not have a tail at all. There are also examples between 1913 to 1919 where the Comoy’s name is still in the same joined flowing script, canted forward but with a short tail running forwards from the bottom of the “y” to under the “s”.

Long tail S
Short tail Y
1917 to the end of the 1930's (at least 1938)

The slightly fancy “COMOY’S” can be found stamped in a curve, in upper case script with serifs, apostrophe before the “S,” and the “C” larger than the other letters. The arched “COMOY’S” with serifs and apostrophe may have been continued for a short time after the WW I. Pipes can also be found with the name stamped across the top of the stem as apposed to along the side.

Arched
During the 1940s

Not many pipes were made. It seems that the “COMOY’S” was stamped as decribed above, with the grade of the pipe (quality) stamped in block letters below. Just after WW II, in 1945 or slightly later, the “COMOY'S” stamp was changed from the fancier curve to a straight line, sans serif, block lettered "COMOYS", with no apostrophe, see No 3 below in "From the 1950s".

From the 1950s

Now the Comoy’s stamp can be found in three variants:

  1. A simple block-letter style without serifs but with the C larger than the other letters and the apostrophe before the “S”.
  2. A return to the slightly more fancy block letters with serifs and the apostrophe. (It seems that some grades carried different stamps, or at least that the stamping changed in different years for some grades.)
  3. A simple block-letter style without serifs and without the apostrophe and with the “C” the same size as the rest of the letters. This stamp was probably not used very long.
  4. A simple block-letter style without serifs but with the apostrophe before the "S" and with the “C” the same size as the rest of the letters.
From the 1950s - No.3
From the 1950s - No.4

“Made In” Stamp

London Made

Comoy’s were the first London pipe maker to use this phrase. It is the earliest stamp to be used and can be found from 1902 or perhaps earlier and on into the 1930s . At this time, it can appear as “LONDON” over “MADE” or in a straight line under "Comoy's" in script. From the twenties it can also appear as “LONDON” arched, and below “MADE” arched the other way. This stamp has the shape of an oval rugby-ball rather than a circle round shape. On these pipes the grade of the pipe (quality) is stamped in block letters under the "COMOY'S" stamp.

"LONDON" over "MADE"
"LONDON" over "MADE" - Arched
Made in London

This can be verified on Old Bruyere pipes dated 1921, and it appears in a straight line, "MADE IN LONDON" under the arched “COMOY’S”.

Made in England

This is stamped in a circle with “MADE” at the top, “IN” in the middle, and “ENGLAND” forming the bottom of the circle. This can be seen on a Cecil as early as 1910 and on an Old Bruyere of 1921 and more frequent from the 1930s. It can also appear as “MADE” arched, “IN” below, and “ENGLAND” arched the other way. These stamps are in an oval rugby-ball shape rather than a circle round shape.

"MADE IN ENGLAND" - Circle Shape
"MADE IN ENGLAND" - Rugby Shape
Made in London England

Appears in two versions. This is again stamped in a circle with “MADE” at the top, “IN” in the middle, and “LONDON” at the bottom, with “ENGLAND" in a straight line beneath. It can be assumed that this stamp was first used in the export drive in the early 1950s. On a Bulldog Sandblast from the early 50s the Comoy name no. 2 above was used together with "MADE IN LONDON" over "ENGLAND". There are no known examples of pre-WW II Comoy’s stamped in this way. The second version is the same as above but in a "rugby ball " shape. This shape is verified on Comoy´s "Extraordinaire" pipes.

"MADE IN LONDON ENGLAND" - circle and straight
"MADE IN LONDON ENGLAND" - rugby ball and straight

Inlaid “C”

“C” was first inlaid in the side of the mouthpiece around 1919. This was a complex inlay needing three drillings. First, a round white inlay was inserted, then the centre of the white was drilled out, and a smaller round black inlay was inserted. Finally, another drilling was made to remove the open part of the “C,” and an even smaller black inlay was inserted. This inlaid “C,” known as the “three-piece C,” was continued until the Cadogan era in the 1980s. However, the “C” in the 1920s and early 30s is much thinner and more delicate than the one post-WW II.

Cadogan first changed the “C” to a single drilling with an inlay that had the “C” in the centre, and more recently it became a laser imprint.

There are known pipes, for exaple an early 1920’ “Par Excellence” where the “C” is on top of the mouthpiece.

Three-piece C
Single drilling C.jpg - Arched

The Bar Logo appears on the "Grand Slam".

Quote from Logoplm.gif Pipes: Logos & Markings. (Comoy page: Grand Slam)

It is white, turquoise, white. The mark "*and a number" indicates the size of the leather washer located on the end of the metal stinger (see patent description). The bar logo was used from 1933 until 1945. After WWII the bar logo has been replaced by the 3 pieces inlaid C.

Bar logo