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[[File:1920shape8b.jpg|thumb|1920 Pre-Republic 8b, Jim Lilley Collection]][[File:HouseXXLPreRepublic.jpg|thumb|left|Pre-Republic House Pipe, Jim Lilley Collection]][[File:Premier 1946 pre-republic chubby 999.jpg|thumb|1946 Pre-Republic Chubby 999, Jim Lilley Collection]]The pre-republic Peterson's are often considered to be | [[File:1920shape8b.jpg|thumb|1920 Pre-Republic 8b, Jim Lilley Collection]][[File:HouseXXLPreRepublic.jpg|thumb|left|Pre-Republic House Pipe, Jim Lilley Collection]][[File:Premier 1946 pre-republic chubby 999.jpg|thumb|1946 Pre-Republic Chubby 999, Jim Lilley Collection]][[File:Pipedia5.jpg|thumb|left|1924 O Grade, Jim Lilley collection]][[File:Pipedia9.jpg|thumb|Pre-Republic 1947 System 3 Shape 356]][[File:Pipedia10.jpg|thumb|left|Pre-Republic 1920 System Magnum]][[File:Pipedia11.jpg|thumb|Pre-Republic 1931 Deluxe System 4s]][[File:Pre-Republic 'Chubby' Deluxe 9BC.Great smoker.jpg|thumb|left|Pre-Republic "Chubby" Deluxe 9BC]][[File:Pipedia12.jpg|thumb|Pre-Republic Era 1931 Deluxe System 9b]][[File:Pipedia13.jpg|thumb|left|Pre-Republic Era 1922 Kapet Rhodesian]][[File:Pipedia14.jpg|thumb|Pre-Republic Era 1938 Made in Eire 308 System]]The pre-republic Peterson's are often considered to be rather special by Peterson pipe smokers.They hark back to a time when quality briar was in abundance and craftsmanship was of the highest level.<br> | ||
quality briar was in abundance and craftsmanship was of the highest level.<br> | Like all collecting desirables, pre-republic pipes are now relatively hard to come by, with availability declining with each | ||
Like all collecting desirables, pre-republic pipes now | passing year. The amazing thing that I find with pre-Republic's is the consistently high smoking qualities that they show,regardless | ||
availability declining with each passing year. The amazing thing that I | of being a high or low grade issue. No it is not that I am looking through rose tinted glasses and being sentimental,they really | ||
the consistently high smoking qualities that they show,regardless of being a high or low grade issue. | were very well made. I base my judgement on owning and smoking quite a few of them. | ||
No it is not that I am looking through rose tinted glasses and being sentimental,they really were | |||
very well made. I base my judgement on owning and smoking quite a few of them. | |||
For the purpose of this exercise and bearing in mind the | |||
nomenclature,I am suggesting that an acceptable criteria or starting point for when the Pre Republic | eccentric vagaries of Peterson nomenclature,I am suggesting that an acceptable criteria or starting point for when the Pre | ||
era begins and ends,requires a short historical resume.:- | Republic era begins and ends,requires a short historical resume.:- <br> | ||
The Irish Free State came into being in December 1922. The British sovereign, as King of Ireland, was nominal head of state, | |||
The Irish Free State came into being in December 1922. The British sovereign, as King of Ireland, | but Ireland was a republic in all but name.<br> | ||
was nominal head of state, but Ireland was a republic in all but name.<br> | An entirely new constitution was voted by the Irish people in 1937, with provision for a President Of Ireland as head of state. | ||
An entirely new constitution was voted by the Irish people in 1937, with provision for a President | Therefore, Ireland became a republic in 1937, but was not called that. It was called simply EIRE (Ireland in Irish.)<br> | ||
Of Ireland as head of state. Therefore, Ireland became a republic in 1937, but was not called that. It | When, in 1945, the British government inquired of prime minister Eamon de Valera weather he intended to proclaim a republic, his | ||
was called simply EIRE (Ireland in Irish.)<br> | answer was: "we are a republic", having refused to say so before for eight years. This was news to the British: when George VI | ||
When, in 1945, the British government inquired of prime minister Eamon de Valera weather he | ascended the British throne in 1936, he had been crowned King of Ireland, as well, little knowing that there no longer was a | ||
intended to proclaim a republic, his answer was: "we | |||
before for eight years. This was news to the British: when George VI ascended the British throne in | |||
1936, he had been crowned King of Ireland, as well, little knowing that there no longer was a | |||
Kingdom of Ireland! | Kingdom of Ireland! | ||
As usual when trying to get accurate facts in regard to Peterson history,something will jump up and get in the way. They are missing many of their records. The following is the best that we can do for a guide to the myriad markings during the period 1922 – 1949.<br> | |||
Prior to 1920 it was rare for a country of origin to be stamped on the pipe, just Peterson's Dublin on the band. After 1921/22,If it is stamped "MADE IN IRELAND" and the "Made in" is stacked over "Ireland" or "MADE IN EIRE" or several other forms, it was made | |||
between 1922 and 1938. A considerable number of Peterson pipes were stamped "Irish Free State". From about 1930 to 1949, | |||
most of the pipes (those which were stamped) were stamped "Made in Ireland"." If the stamp reads "MADE IN IRELAND" in a | |||
circle, the pipe was made between 1939 and 1948. These are all "prerepublic" pipes. I can tell you that the mark "Irish Free State" | |||
was adopted in 1922;and replaced by "Eire" in 1937 and then by "Republic of Ireland" in 1949.<br> | |||
Phew! So there you have it. easy and straight forward,oh yeah! Peterson initially graded their mass -produced System pipes, i.e., | |||
regular catalogue pipes (in descending order) "Deluxe," "First Quality," "0" grade, "2nd grade," and "3rd grade."<br> | |||
You will also find old Peterson Systems stamped System 4 or System 5. The shape number is also indicative of briar quality; for | |||
example,- 364 is Peterson's 3rd quality shape number (the 2nd quality sister pipe is a 314.) | |||
As usual when trying to get accurate facts in regard to Peterson history,something will jump up and | |||
get in the way. They are missing many of their records. The following is the best that we can do for | |||
a guide to the myriad markings during the period 1922 – 1949.<br> | |||
Prior to 1920 it was rare for a country of origin to be stamped on the pipe, just Peterson's Dublin on | |||
the band. After 1921/22,If it is stamped "MADE IN IRELAND" and the "Made in" is stacked over | |||
"Ireland" or "MADE IN EIRE" or several other forms, it was made between 1922 and 1938. A | |||
considerable number of Peterson pipes were stamped "Irish Free State". From about 1930 to 1949, | |||
most of the pipes (those which were stamped) were stamped "Made in Ireland"." If the stamp reads | |||
"MADE IN IRELAND" in a circle, the pipe was made between 1939 and 1948. These are all "prerepublic" | |||
pipes. I can tell you that the mark "Irish Free State" was adopted in 1922;and replaced by | |||
"Eire" in 1937 and then by "Republic of Ireland" in 1949. | |||
Phew! So there you have it. easy and straight forward,oh yeah! | |||
Peterson initially graded their mass -produced System pipes, i.e., regular catalogue pipes (in | |||
descending order) "Deluxe," "First Quality," "0" grade, "2nd grade," and "3rd grade."<br> | |||
You will also | |||
indicative of briar quality; for example,- 364 is Peterson's 3rd quality shape number (the 2nd quality | |||
sister pipe is a 314.) | |||
Sometime in the 1940s they introduced the "Premier" and "Standard" stampings. The "Premier" falling just under the "Deluxe," and the "Standard" becoming the former "2nd grade" | |||
quality.<br> | |||
The stampings on the silver bands are "faux" hallmarks and are just decorative symbols of Ireland ... a Shamrock,a wolfhound , | |||
and a castle or tower.<br> | |||
In regard to the silver and nickel markings of this period,well nu-ff said,it is a blooming minefield!<br> | |||
Hallmarks are only required on precious metals not nickel. Also a pipe made in England must meet English requirements which | |||
now (and for a number of years)are only 925 for sterling. This is an EU standard I believe. The shamrock, wolfhound and tower | |||
are not hallmarks. Dublin hallmarks for sterling are Hibernia, lyre and a letter denoting the year. They are still required for silver and gold in Ireland.<br> | |||
On the faux "hallmarks" v Dublin silver hallmarks. There are many Peterson pipes with sterling silver bands that do not have | |||
hallmarks though, even some in the Premier and Deluxe grades. | |||
===1899 – 1970 London Made Pipes=== | ===1899 – 1970 London Made Pipes=== | ||