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Comoy's pipes were given shape numbers in the 1909 catalogue and also names for each shape, but it would seem that these numbers were NOT stamped on the pipes until sometime in the 1920's. The earliest known is from 1925. The shape numbers are all 3 digits until after the Cadogan acquisition of Comoy's in 1979, when some shapes were introduced with 4 digit numbers. However, they may have been introduced earlier in 1976, 1977 or 1978. On pre Cadogan pipes additional letters can be found after the three numbers:


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*M on Meerschaum lined pipes.
*P on Panel shaped bowls. ( This may not always be the case as I have now seen a photograph of a non panel Shape 309 with a P)
*C on some shapes with curved bits. This does not seem to be universal for all curved bits and it would appear to be mainly on Princes and Bulldogs.
*F believed to indicate a "Fishtail" bit. Verified on an early 1930's Virgin Briar with the shape number 206F and a fishtail bit exactly like the Dunhill F/T, that was not introduced until 1950.
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{| class="wikitable" style="margin: left;"
''(S)=saddle bit  -  A/M=army monunt  -  sq=squat  -  sq.shank=square shank''
|<center>'''Shape #'''||'''Shape Description'''  |||'''Degree of Bend'''  ||||'''Additional Information'''</center>
 
|-
''S=small  -  M=medium  -  L=large  -  XL=extraordinare shape  -  LW=lightweight shape''
|3||bulldog|||str.||||M
 
|-
 
|4||bulldog(S)|||str.||||L
<gallery widths=300px heights=550px caption="Circa 1975 (Pre-Cadogan) Shape Chart, courtesy Doug Valitchka">
|-
File:Shape Chart 1975 1.jpg
|5||bulldog(S)|||str.||||L
File:Shape Chart 1975 2.jpg
|-
File:Shape Chart 1975 3.jpg
|5XL||bulldog(S)|||str.|||||XL
</gallery>
|-
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|6||billiard(S)|||str.||||M
 
|-
 
|13||billiard|||1/2||||S
 
|-
<table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="80%"
|17||kruger(S)|||1/2||||M
style='width:80.0%'>
|-
<tr>
|19||A/M billiard|||str.||||L
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
|-
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
|20||A/M billiard|||str.||||L
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
|-
  style='font-size:9.0pt'># </span></b></p>
|23||A/M billiard|||str.||||canted bowl L
  </td>
|-
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
|24||A/M billiard|||str.||||S
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
|-
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
|25||A/M billiard|||str.||||M
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>type</span></b></p>
|-
  </td>
|26||A/M billiard|||1/2||||M
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
|-
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
|27||billiard(S)|||str.||||L
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
|-
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>bent</span></b></p>
|28||billiard||
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>etc.</span></b></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>3</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>bulldog</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>str.</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>M</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>4</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>bulldog(S)</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>str.</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>L</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>5</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>bulldog(S)</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>str.</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>L</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>5XL</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>bulldog(S)</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>str.</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>XL</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>6</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>billiard(S)</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>str.</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>M</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>13</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>billiard</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>1/2</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>S</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>17</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>kruger(S)</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>1/2</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>M</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>19</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>A/M billiard</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>str.</span></p>
  </td>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>L</span></p>
  </td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;
  border-right:solid #ABABAB 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt'>20</span></p>

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